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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) 14:47 - Jul 13 with 793 viewsBlueBadger


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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 20:31 - Jul 13 with 711 viewsibbleobble

You back a 35% wage rise strike? In what world do the BMA think a 35% wage rise a - makes sense, b - is reasonable and c - is a good look? To say it’s naive would be an understatement. All the while a two-tier system grows stronger by the day as private medical insurance and private treatment climbs.

I’m sure anyone with common sense would agree public sector wages need addressing but junior doctors will be consultants in the not too distant future and amongst the 2% - 5% in the country. A 35% increase based on a poor retrospective 2008 wage cut back calculation!?

Time for juniors to grow-up I reckon. Maybe a protest against their academic fees and the interest rates on those loans would be better placed. One for the so solidarity crew to number crunch and mull over.
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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 01:24 - Jul 14 with 663 viewsBlueBadger

And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 20:31 - Jul 13 by ibbleobble

You back a 35% wage rise strike? In what world do the BMA think a 35% wage rise a - makes sense, b - is reasonable and c - is a good look? To say it’s naive would be an understatement. All the while a two-tier system grows stronger by the day as private medical insurance and private treatment climbs.

I’m sure anyone with common sense would agree public sector wages need addressing but junior doctors will be consultants in the not too distant future and amongst the 2% - 5% in the country. A 35% increase based on a poor retrospective 2008 wage cut back calculation!?

Time for juniors to grow-up I reckon. Maybe a protest against their academic fees and the interest rates on those loans would be better placed. One for the so solidarity crew to number crunch and mull over.


Oh, do piss off there's a dear. Becoming a consultant is a deacde long process, at best. We can't recruit in the health service across the board due to a 13 years of real terms worth of wage deflation. Junior doctors more so than others.

The two two tier system in the country is growing precisely because public sector wages aren't being addressed.

Perhaps Tory voters should grow up and stop voting for people who keep freezing public sector wages, passing on money to their private sector mates and cutting taxes at the top.

One for the 'I like bigotry, corruption, incompence and criminality' crew to number crunch and chew over.

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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 06:18 - Jul 14 with 633 viewsibbleobble

And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 01:24 - Jul 14 by BlueBadger

Oh, do piss off there's a dear. Becoming a consultant is a deacde long process, at best. We can't recruit in the health service across the board due to a 13 years of real terms worth of wage deflation. Junior doctors more so than others.

The two two tier system in the country is growing precisely because public sector wages aren't being addressed.

Perhaps Tory voters should grow up and stop voting for people who keep freezing public sector wages, passing on money to their private sector mates and cutting taxes at the top.

One for the 'I like bigotry, corruption, incompence and criminality' crew to number crunch and chew over.


You’d be able to recruit better if the penalties for protracted academia weren’t so severe and the burden of debt on education so large. Not being able to recruit because ‘wages are too low’ is a falsehood. Any doctor going into the medical profession because they want a lucrative lifestyle is very misguided, not that they shouldn’t be paid well, of course. Personally I’d like to see public sector education completely subsidised as a means to recruit and avoid constant infighting over salary and debt.

Calling for a 35% wage increase as a starting point for negotiation is embarrassing and reflects poorly on the BMA. A friend who’s a GP just quit the BMA as did an orthopaedic surgeon i interviewed; “over privileged Champagne Socialists” was their underlying sentiment and neither of them are Tory. The BMA look ridiculous.
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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 07:56 - Jul 14 with 598 viewsnoggin

And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 06:18 - Jul 14 by ibbleobble

You’d be able to recruit better if the penalties for protracted academia weren’t so severe and the burden of debt on education so large. Not being able to recruit because ‘wages are too low’ is a falsehood. Any doctor going into the medical profession because they want a lucrative lifestyle is very misguided, not that they shouldn’t be paid well, of course. Personally I’d like to see public sector education completely subsidised as a means to recruit and avoid constant infighting over salary and debt.

Calling for a 35% wage increase as a starting point for negotiation is embarrassing and reflects poorly on the BMA. A friend who’s a GP just quit the BMA as did an orthopaedic surgeon i interviewed; “over privileged Champagne Socialists” was their underlying sentiment and neither of them are Tory. The BMA look ridiculous.
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How long should public sector workers accept below inflation pay increases for?

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And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 09:19 - Jul 14 with 529 viewsBlueBadger

And also, solidarity with my junior doctor colleagues. (n/t) on 06:18 - Jul 14 by ibbleobble

You’d be able to recruit better if the penalties for protracted academia weren’t so severe and the burden of debt on education so large. Not being able to recruit because ‘wages are too low’ is a falsehood. Any doctor going into the medical profession because they want a lucrative lifestyle is very misguided, not that they shouldn’t be paid well, of course. Personally I’d like to see public sector education completely subsidised as a means to recruit and avoid constant infighting over salary and debt.

Calling for a 35% wage increase as a starting point for negotiation is embarrassing and reflects poorly on the BMA. A friend who’s a GP just quit the BMA as did an orthopaedic surgeon i interviewed; “over privileged Champagne Socialists” was their underlying sentiment and neither of them are Tory. The BMA look ridiculous.
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They'd also be able to retain people if pay and conditions were better.
Conditions would become considerably better pretty much overnight if we were able to retain people.


None of my colleagues realistically expect 35%. It's very obviously a starting point. This is how negotiation works.

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