buryblue77 - good post.

Although all entitled to our opinion, we shall all just have to wait and see. We're supporters and as such all we can do is support the team as best we can...........they need that at the moment. Leave the off field antics to the board and people who we hope know what they are talking about. Get behind the boys COYB

Ive heard its Qatar family. Dont see anyone affording our spirralling debit!! Feel a little sorry for ME he has saved us. Although he hasnt cleared the debit and we appear to be more in debit. He did save us going under!!! Its easy for us just to say buy 11 One Million pound players and we will be promoted. He wont pay over the odds Who can blame him! If we had been successful everyone wouldnt be on Marcus` back!!!

Jonathan Symonds enjoys a Portman Pie to 2

The club may not be for sale, but I notice they haven't ruled out a loan deal until the end of the season with a 24 hour recall option!

H32 thanks.
Agreed with your post a couple before mine, I wouldn't want us to sell out to interfering billionaire owners who know nothing about football but think they know more than experienced managers and coaches.
I would hate for someone to come in and give Mick the boot just because they wan some South American who can't say anymore than hello, as I feel Mick is the man to take us places, once he's cleared out the PJ rot. Bet you never thought I'd say PJ and rot in the same sentence did you? Lol

Those two look like a plane, trains and automobiles reunion.

Any concrete discussions, offers etc seems highly unlikely speculation BUT we should treat weasel corporate press release spin with complete suspicion. What is there to suggest that ME is happy with his investment and acquisition? It has probably cost his business anything upward of £100 million with little return let alone satisfaction or enjoyment whatever his Christmas written-for-him press releases might say. If someone could give you your money back in his shoes , what would you say? The only barrier to this is the fact that no one in their right mind ( even in the mad mad world of football) is going to shell out squillions on a near league 1 team with an averga egate of 16000.

Its tempting and comfrting to think that without ME we'd "be Portsmouth" but that doesn't realy tally with the facts. We were a selling club not a utterly wrecked club. it wasn't a firesale. The deal was " we have no chance of competing without investment" not " we are bust unless we do this". Since that momentous deal, there are some uncomfortable facts that many on here seem unwilling to face up to...

* our league position has for the last 3 years been the worst in living memory with the threat of league 1 constant. Never in the last 50 years plus have we experienced this.
* our gates have been sliced by 25% and are down to a paltry 16K and falling.
* we have churned managers like never before and just got worse.

So, on what basis can we really say that this regime has been anything but disastrous? There are certain aspects of ME's approach that i like ( eg willingness to back managers and keep out of dressing room management etc) and have no problem with his desire for low profile but his judgement on all matters has been disastrous over a serially long period and I have , frankly , no confidence in his decision making or of any of the sycophantic suits given the label "chief exec".

We are left to guess about this man's thinking and his motives but there can be no argument about the events since his takeover and the appalling place we find ourselves in on all fronts and all those that put faith and confidence in him, a lawyer and an IT manager are allowing naive sentiment to cloud all available reason.

The club may not be up for sale. But reading the denial from the new clegg, it doesn't exactly say 'absolutely no way'. There is no smoke without fire. Milne admits there has been interest. I bet Evans will sell.

As usual with any 'controversial' thread, we have the usual posters on here that state everything under the sun is wrong with the Club, and those that are actually more sane!

Whether Evans is a proper football man, or makes himself 'known' to the public are seperate issues. What is relevant here is that he saved our Club from getting deeper into serious trouble. That is a fact that some people casually decide to ignore.

We could so easily have folded by now if it wasn't for him.

I'm not too naive to realise he is in this for his own gain too, however. But, let face it, surely he is better than some other Club's owners we could name! As a previous poster on here said - be careful what you wish for.

It just continues to amaze me how quickly a small proportion of our 'fans' continually kick this Club. Quite frankly those 'supporters' will never, ever, be happy whatever the future holds...

Milne looks a lot like Marcus Evans himself hmmmmm.....

Absolutely no smoke , i suspect Evans would love rid ,ask why he needs the club.

I for one have no wish to see Marcus sell the club.

truth hurts...you are naive sentiment personified.

I have supported this club since 1970 and put my hand in my posket to buy shares in our darkest administration hour so don't come the "fan" nonsense.

I also voted - as a shareholder - for the ME takeover because I believed that that was the right move at the right time. Events of the last three years have shown that to be false. On any objective yardstick you can find, we are in our worst state and lowest position in a lifetime. Every decision this man and his accolytes have made has taken us further and further backwards. I wish it were otherwise and remember wistfully trips to Anfield, Highbury et al but it isn't.

Saying that "it could be worse" is denial exemplified. What are you going to say if we get relegated ( 3rd time running a real possibility ....never before in 50 years)..."oh well, we could be Luton?"

I'm not arguing he should sell or that there aren't worse maniacs around but wake up and stop pretending that everything is alright and anyone who says otherwise is just being "negative". Everyone who loves this club and has devoted so much time and money supporting them has been badly let down.

I did wonder what Little and Large were up to these days....

looks like Jimmy “Five Bellies” has put his weight back on

Jonathan Symonds looks like John Candy

That's gotta be John Candy

Mark

because they work for ME's company anyway, that's why they have been appointed MDs

WashbrookBlue

Firstly congratulations on the various shows of support you mentioned, honestly.

But where am I being naive? It is a simple fact we could have been worse off in terms of the Club's structure (Forest, Blackburn and Portsmouth are just 3 valid examples). Is that point wrong?

Regarding our league positions of recent years, I fully agree with you. Simply hasn't been good enough for a Club of our so-called size. What is the answer? Just look at some of the players we have signed over Evans's era - the likes of Leadbitter and Bullard for example should hae been good enough quality for this league. Granted they didn't work out, no denying that, but the fact remains we have targetted (and subsequented purchased) perceived good players. In hindsight it didn't work. But we can't fault the effort put in from board to try and achieve success.

Due to the failings of the likes of Leadbitter and Bullard (who fans wanted at the time, don't forget) we are now aiming for the younger and hungrier types (again something the fans have wanted). Do you not agree?

And, for whatever reasons (and I appreciate there are many valid ones) our attendances are dreadful for a Club like ours. Gates of c18000 isn't good enough. Ok, results and/or performances haven't been great, and league standings have been poor, and it's not cheap to go are all valid reasons but, if we were to reach the Premiership again, I bet it would soon be full. Agree?

I think should be careful what they wish for. I havent been ME biggest fan and certainly wasn't Cleggs, but realise without ME, this club would be in serious trouble.

I remember Forest fans thinking they would be the next Man City when taken over from middle east owners at the start of the season, look at the shambles they have had to put up with this season.

It is worrying that they didnt completely dismiss it as pure rubbish like I thought they would, I suppose a club is like a player, everyone has their price.

Talbs77.
Is this club not in serious trouble as we speak?
Evans is a bussines man. What he leaves behind will be no concern of his. A purely business decision you see.

truth hurts

The thrust of my argument is that this regime has presided over a disastrous period for our club and cannot dodge accountability for that. We are in a terrible place and have been since almost the day he took over. Saying it could be worse by pointing to 2 clubs who are actually much much higher than us in the league is scarcely comforting.

How can you talk about what atendances would be in the Premiership when we stand - for the 3rd season running - at the edge of league 1?? Yes, I have hope for the direction of the team management under McCarthy but that is hope not expectation - much as I want to see it , we cannot yet say that his transfer dealings have been any better than his two predeccessors.

The track record of our owner and his appointments has been abysmal. We are right to question their motives and capability , feel let down and treated like a customer focus group for a corporate brand strategy. Our only hope is that MM turns out to have better judgement than anyone else in the last few years and we can - yet again - hope for the clouds to break once more.

WashbrookBlue

Yeah i agree with certain points you just made, but as for stating 2 badly run clubs are better off than us, i would argue is wrong. Positionally in the league maybe, but that can always be altered. Basic running of the clubs can't.

Also the attendance thing based on promotion is simply a scenerio i came up with. Wasn't saying how likely or otherwise it is. Is a fundamental truth thougj that we would get a full house if a premiership team (or at least more than we currently do)

Back to Evans et al. What is your suhgestion then for the better?

Phil comments "when they are more Familiar with their roles" So we ate blessed with Two learners this time around!Wonders will never cease.