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However, far away.....
at 20:18 20 Jan 2019

Just a rumour though right Brogs? Not at all backed up by anything more than us keyboard boys eh?

Don't be getting arrested now. See you next week?
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However, far away.....
at 20:00 20 Jan 2019

No it's not. It's based on how he treated them, "managed" them and what's happened since.

You cannot underestimate the damage he did to every aspect of the team here. Openly abusing and questioning senior players out of insecurity and incompetence pushed us down this path very quickly.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 19:38 20 Jan 2019

Yep. You two had no idea who they were and had to google them. It's incredibly clear given at least two other posters knew exactly what I was talking about and why.

Which makes the whole "switched on" persona as laughable as it always is. You can pretend otherwise but if you had, but you wouldn't have felt the need to back him up on a needless question to take a swipe at me.

Google first, then post. You might actually look like you know what you're talking about.

We're done here it seems.
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However, far away.....
at 19:36 20 Jan 2019

I guess had we landed Gestede and Leadbitter for £80k per week and still been in this scenario we'd have people lamenting the wastage.

He's caught between two stools here, and it's all ME's making in my opinion. He should have treated Mick better and got rid earlier or stuck to his convictions and kept him on with massive backing this summer and left the critics with little recourse other than to twist their complaints up around themselves.

Knudsen and Bart will have to go even if we stay up. I can't see them justifying the wages or wanting to be here for different reasons. To think Hurst ruined them and sold off the rest of the squad of similar importance is heartbreaking.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 19:31 20 Jan 2019

You're not interested at all and never have been. It's the usual "sheeple" lazy content analysis and you've proven yourself to be biased and dishonest plenty of times on here in numerous threads.

The fact you both trumpeted being so politically switched on and astute, and got done at the knees by the latest yellow vests tells us everything we need to know.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 15:51 20 Jan 2019

The people I was referring to do call themselves "yellow vests" just type that and UK/England/Britain into twitter and you'll see who and what I was talking about.

The fact that you and our resident youtube conspiracy nut failed to pick up on that, and proceeded to insinuate I was somehow media-lacking is on you boys.

My post had nothing to do with anything other than the ignorant right wing on both sides of the Atlantic and the bellends therein.
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However, far away.....
at 15:48 20 Jan 2019

I'm not sure if you mean Hurst or Lambert at the end.

The squad churn myth that Hurst was "forced" into it needs to die, that simply wasn't the case then, as those discussed above previously insisted.

However, I have to ask what else could Lambert do? He didn't say it was something he wouldn't but shouldn't do. Given how Hurst ruined Bart and many other players on and off the field, it's hard to see how those stepping up were left in a position to make a success of it.

We overpaid for every single one of them, something Mick rarely did and totally ruined the ethos of the squad in doing so. As above the question is who stays wherever we end up.
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Absolute best case
at 15:20 20 Jan 2019

"At best" yo-yoing back up begging for a couple of seasons at this level is about as good as it'll lead to.

The idea we'll swell to someone like Brentford or the Blunts and do enough to fly up the table upon our return and stay there means a lot more variables will have to come good.
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Absolute best case
at 15:17 20 Jan 2019

We need upsets and have for some time. The idea that any if not many of the games in this league are foregone conclusions is proven wrong every week.

A better test is what we can see on the pitch. Yesterday we looked like a relegated team, all the positives are potential and will come too late without massive change.

The question is who and how many of the 44 will be retained as and when the drop comes. Even if we survive this season, it is unlikely without Evans wholly changing his mind and approach we'd survive again.

He's ground us down to being fcuking Rotherham or Bolton at best thanks to these missteps.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 11:02 20 Jan 2019

They call themselves yellow vests. I'm not being funny, but you're not doing well here and being a bit odd about it.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 10:53 20 Jan 2019

Nope. The ones who marched on Westminister with a badly typed and proofed "Wot we stand 4" type pamphlet as discussed previously this week.
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However, far away.....
at 10:52 20 Jan 2019

As ever, that's not quite true is it? You're talking in the same kind of extremes as those you mock.

There were some that were delusional and fanatical when Hurst came in, as a remedy to their same ignorant views on Mick. They'd have collected the sweat off the little man's nuts and told us it was ambrosia. They oddly went quiet, or did a Stalinist U-turn after being abusive and weird early doors insisting they never backed him much if at all etc.

However, there is a spectrum from there as there is with Lambert. I see very view people treating him in the same way. People are just so starved of things to love about us right now and in some cases guilty about how they treated the previous two and any dissent to their view, that it's natural this "PR" will be welcomed.

Regardless, it's a good thing Lambert is doing this. He was right that the club needed rebuilding, Mick did much of it, and Evans allowed Hurst to plant dynamite all over the foundations.

That's where the "Be careful what you wish for" stuff really leaves a bruise. It only works if you pretend Hurst was never here, or was sabotaged by a bloke who left months in advance and left him a decent squad. We've gone from Mick to a bloke as close to him as we could have got and are back at 2012 - the difference being we're not getting results and are coming at it from a very different angle because of all that's happened in between.
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However, far away.....
at 10:42 20 Jan 2019

I think Lankester has the potential to do that, he's no different to Nuttall in that regard, the difference being that had someone make the chance for him in Armstrong.

We are at a massive disadvantage thanks to Evans' funding/decision-making and the lack of continuity in getting rid of Mick through to the present day. It's beginning to wear on us.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 10:37 20 Jan 2019

Maybe, or just admit you didn't understand what I was making reference to and call it quits?
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 10:02 20 Jan 2019

I guess because I watch the news, and that's what has happened in this country in the past month or so.
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10th February looming large......
at 09:25 20 Jan 2019

I've no idea. From what I saw yesterday no, it fits the pattern of the season and a relegated club. But if those new players click and do what they are capable of then it's more than possible because 4th bottom is freakishly low this season.
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10th February looming large......
at 09:20 20 Jan 2019

I'd take a hiding if it meant we survived right now.

I think it'll be a hard-fought dull game of football and will do neither club's seasons any harm or help.

We've been utterly destroyed by Hurst, the rivalry is so far out in the distance it really matters less than it has since they were in our position.
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The cat is definitely out of the bag now
at 09:18 20 Jan 2019

There's been some hilarious counter-propaganda from the Cernovich loving bellsniffs over this on twitter.

Can't believe stuff like this is so easily dismissed, but you see it from the paedo-loving yellow vests, Stephen-Yaxley Bellend and his mob etc all the time.

Provoke, provoke, provoke then run to mummy like the withered little sh1ts they are.
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However, far away.....
at 09:11 20 Jan 2019

I can see why some people are starting to blame Lambert, I'm not sure it's fair though. Certainly Bristol and Millwall shows he isn't able to fix what was wrong with say Bolton in our home form.

We still haven't got a manager who can change a game in play with a switch of formation or sub like Mick would do with great success.

If this losing by 2 away from home continues I can see the shallow end of the gene pool raising a tsunami of dickheadedness again against Lambert, because well, it doesn't matter who's in charge when it comes to it for some people does it?

The biggest problem Lambert faces is that he can only replace quality like Jonas with prospects like Elder or problem players at other clubs.
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However, far away.....
at 09:06 20 Jan 2019

Generally agree there. Although I do think it's a clear hierarchy of Jonas>Elder>Kenlock at this level. Collins was getting slated by some women on my walk up the hill, which I found really interesting "wobbly" they were saying.

Chambers had that one header which he glanced into the six yard box in the 1st half, Collins that one back across goal late on. Maybe he should have marshalled Elder better?

Skuse had his bad game, he improved but when Trevoh is off form like he was and constantly trying the simple and complicated passes when the other is needed, it's no wonder we broke down play.

Judge was underwhelming and that's no great surprise. He is another new face and sums up what so much churn does to us. We've signed enough to players to field four teams this season, that's appalling and killing us.

Sears should have been dropped for me, he's just not been at it lately and needed a rest. I'd have Quaner out wide smashing into Bell and Judge behind Keane where his lack of legs isn't an issue. Lankester down the left would have pinned Reed back and allowed us to swap wingers properly.

I fear we can't afford to lose another home game, or lose the remaining away games. But at least the gap stayed the same.
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