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Thread | Red card? Frustration with VAR response
at 11:32 17 Jan 2025
So have watched back the Joao Pedro challenge on Walton, and then considered the VAR response: "The referee’s call of yellow card for João Pedro was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed that the challenge was not serious foul play." While I agree it was not serious foul play, I want to consider the following 3 scenarios:
1 - Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed.
2 - Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned.
3 - Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off.
I think the challenge was more than reckless and while not be excessive I believe "endangered the safety of the opponent".
Sadly I think VAR has lead to referees now making more lenient decisions knowing that VAR will correct the worst - but seems to be allowing those that may be open to debate being let go.
If Delap had done the same to the BHA keeper, guarantee that he would have been shown red, as he has started to get a bit of a rep for leaving his mark. |
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Thread | Brighton
at 23:11 16 Jan 2025
They were extremely effective with their game plan tonight. Pretty much isolated Delap and Hutchinson and as a result made our midfield relatively ineffective. All the best things for us involved Broadhead but he lacked support as a result of Brighton’s effectiveness.
I will say the referee was quite weak, failed to clamp down on the obvious play acting by several of the Brighton players which frequently disrupted play when we were starting to make headway, and the challenge on Walton was very poor, and I wonder whether it unsettled him leading to the first goal.
One of those games tonight, but not as poor as the Everton and West Ham games, main difference was that one team took their chances and another didn’t. |
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Thread | Rob Edwards now gone . . .
at 14:12 9 Jan 2025
. . . shows that sooner or later a club will lose patience with a manager no matter how much credit they held at one stage. Feel for him as large parts of his promotion / PL team has been sold, plus some injuries.
Not sure anyone saw the game earlier in the week but the QPR winner kind of summed up how his luck has gone, proper freak goal to lose to. |
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Thread | Villa - PSR - Philogene
at 11:53 9 Jan 2025
I'm curious as to how the Philogene transfer will show for Villa . . . either way seems odd business for them.
- They sold him for £5M in 2023, which would have been (as a youth player) fully received as income in that year.
- Bought him back for £13M in 2024, but at this point would have been spread over a 5 year period, so would show as ~£2.6M out per year for next 5 years.
- Have now sold (fingers crossed) to us for say £20M, but I don't think he would now count as a home grown player under PSR rules, so that income for Villa / Ipswich has to show as £4.4M in/out over the next 4.5 years. So currently only a net £1.8M for Villa.
Either way Villa have managed to only make £10M profit on a youth player that they have sold for a total of £26M over the last 18 months, making only a handful of appearances. |
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Thread | Broadhead
at 17:30 6 Jan 2025
With everything else from yesterday's game, just wanted to call out Broadhead's little chip/cross in for Johnson which lead to Szmodics' opener yesterday. Was absolutely perfect. |
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Thread | A few things . . .
at 09:30 6 Jan 2025
. . . that have really irked me after yesterday's game and then watching the highlights / reading the interviews.
Harry Wilson's reaction towards the referee after he failed to initially award the first penalty was frankly shocking - and I get football is an emotional game but it looked to me he effectivelty called the referee a cheat to his face, with no consequence.
Secondly the comment by Marco Silva about he rates how Raul Jiminez and "the way he won fouls" sticks in the throat a bit. Surely it's about winning challenges and making it difficult for defenders but to praise someone for how they win fouls does not sit right.
Finally, yesterday's referee was not great - Davis probably should have seen red (we would be fuming if it was against us), how did he miss the Morsy touch for the penalty and then allowed the reaction by Wilson; then the way that he seemed to dish out cards for the more innocuous challenges for Town players, presumably to appease the Fulham fans following the mistake on the red. |
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Thread | Tactics vs ability vs availability
at 09:31 22 Dec 2024
I see a lot of stuff posted on here about our formation and what we should be playing etc.
A different formation may have limited yesterdays damage but man for man we are physically weaker and have less ability than a side like Newcastle.
This has been further compounded by injuries to our key players who were recruited to fulfil roles in the formation we have played for the last 36 months.
Financial fair play rules limit what sides like us (squad with little or no prem experience) can do to strengthen a squad. We can’t loan in many players with experience and can’t spend to compete with even the yo yo sides like Leicester.
Current rules are making the PL a closed shop with about 15 regular teams and a further 10 teams battling to either stay in the other 5 spots or get promoted into them.
We’re a decent Championship side promoted too soon to be able to build a squad capable of competing at this level week in week out. The fact we are not bottom is testament to McKenna and the way the club is being run compared to the likes of Wolves and Southampton.
Formations won’t save us this season, only luck or other sides ineptitude will do so, and maybe just maybe give us a foothold to build a Premier League squad. [Post edited 22 Dec 2024 9:34]
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Thread | Yesterday
at 07:51 22 Dec 2024
Was disappointing but I do think we held our own until the first goal. |
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Thread | Poor day at the office.
at 20:09 21 Dec 2024
Tone set in the first minute, dare I say a selection error by McKenna and a number of players off their game subsequently punished by one of the better and more physical sides in the league.
It happens, put it behind us and move on. |
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Thread | Southampton , advice needed.
at 08:16 16 Dec 2024
Now that RM has gone, can we start to feel a little sorry for them and the fans. Personally I have never disliked the club, but found that under RMs leadership the club felt thoroughly unpleasant.
Need to understand what is acceptable from now on.
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Thread | Exposed down the right. Again
at 17:52 8 Dec 2024
First goal today felt like a carbon copy of the Leicester goal. The weakness of our right flank is concerning, compounded by the loss of Ogbene.
We have a very good group of players selected from the championship, who are learning to cope with Premier League football but it’s taking time which we don’t have.
We’re almost competing, but frustratingly are too inconsistent.
Today was painful, but predictable in the way it happened.
We are in a much better place than 3 years ago, but losing is never enjoyable. |
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Thread | Southampton implosion
at 20:15 4 Dec 2024
They look ok going forward but their discipline, defence and passing at the back are laughable. Small crumbs of comfort but makes me feel better that we are not as bad as them. |
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Thread | Run to the New Year . . .
at 10:37 25 Nov 2024
Having got our first win and subsequent home draw against Man Utd, what is the realistic expectation for the next 5 matches (up to Arsenal and Chelsea).
I'd like to think we can get home wins against Palace and Bournemouth, at a point each from the Forest, Wolves and Newcastle. Happily trade an away win at wolves for defeats against Forest and Newcastle.
Going to be a big set of games from here until teh Arsenal game . . . [Post edited 25 Nov 2024 10:43]
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Thread | Cajuste
at 22:20 24 Nov 2024
That chase and challenge in the second half, another gem from McK. |
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Thread | Not having a good week . . .
at 10:23 13 Nov 2024
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c207k6g56v7o
So having been suspended on the back of his video comments, David Coote and the VAR official apparently should not have awarded the West Ham penalty vs Man Utd.
I wonder if he had not been suspended whether they would have gone public with this statement, seems quite convenient to pile in on him.
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Thread | The ongoing Muric analysis
at 10:03 11 Nov 2024
The whole Muric debate is interesting, and a lot of it is about perception with people seeing and interpreting based on previous experience. With goalkeepers, people generally *only* remember mistakes especially if the mistakes lead to goals and the team are not winning games. There are anomolies such as Gordon Banks, but in the day of 24x7 coverage and micro analysis, this is now as rare as unicorn crap.
Muric made some very obvious mistakes which led to goals in his early Town career, and these are what people are remembering, so whenever he does something slightly wrong now, the error is magnified, especially as we are now at a higher level where the opportunities to "offset" any errors by the forwards are limited.
I remember Walton making a number of mistakes in the League One season and Hladcky doing the same last year - but it mattered less as we generally came away with the points as we were able to outscore opponents, therefore the memory of those errors is significantly softened.
The other interesting one is whether he is "commanding" his area. My thought again is possibly not as well as he could, but again I think there are mitigations. Not only is the Goalkeeper new this season, but also at times half or even 75% of the defence is new. For a goalkeeper it is essential to understand how the defenders all play and work together and subsequently build the relationship. Worth noting that he has claimed more high balls in the PL this season than any other keeper . . .
You can only do so much in training, as player behaviour differs significantly in match situations, therefore while Muric behaviours gets a significant focus when the ball is ion the area, there is without doubt an element of the other defenders not taking control and doing the same.
The one thing we have in Muric that is becoming clearer and clearer is an excellent shot stopper, especially in 1-1 situations, and that for me is the biggest positive and the primary role for a keeper, as it tends to be instinctive, vs things like passing and ability on the ball which can be taught.
I personally think that the benefits of Muric far outweigh the areas he needs to develop, and as we play more games with the defenders getting used to each other, he will become an integral cog in the ITFC machine. Remember McKenna rarely buys players for the immediate, he uses loans for that, he buys players bevcause he knows they are good, but can see potential to develop and grow them.
The less the fans react negatively or apprehensively to Muric the better he will become. |
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Thread | I am incandescent.
at 18:03 2 Nov 2024
I have not felt this angry after a football game, I think EVER. I have now however got to drive to France so will post some of my thoughts once I have driven and calmed down.
A good and solid Town performance ruined by one of the most inept refereeing performance I can remember.
Come on you blues. |
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Thread | Cooper ban
at 22:21 30 Oct 2024
Looks like Cooper won’t be on the touchline on Saturday after being booked tonight and earning a one match ban. I’ll take any kind of advantage at the moment. |
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Thread | Sunday Thoughts
at 07:47 27 Oct 2024
The simple fact is currently we are not good enough to stay up, we are not making enough chances, giving away possession, soft goals and compounding all of that with far too many mistakes. In too many games this season, we have been the architect of our own downfall, we have given too many cheap goals to Man CIty, West Ham, Everton and now Brentford.
I think it all leads back to when we have the ball. Our passing lacks the decisiveness of the last 2 years (exception being the first 2 goals yesterday), we are taking an extra touch which in the PL you do not get the time/space, and as a result get closed down and subsequently give the ball away while players are often slightly out of position. As a result we put ourselves under pressure and then find ourselves scrambling at the back, making mistakes and giving goals away.
We have shown we can compete for periods, but rarely for the whole 90 mins - too often in games we have lost control and composure for a 5-10 minute period and conceded multiple goals in those periods.
I don't think it is down to just ability, our players have that, the bigger problem is now mental, and with every game without a win, the monkey on the back gets bigger.
Winning is a habit, but so is not winning - we have not seen how McKenna reacts in this situation as we have not been in this situation for the last few years - now is the time he needs to show how good a manager he really is, especially considering our injury list. |
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Thread | Injuries
at 20:36 26 Oct 2024
I remember saying last season that we had been very lucky with lack of injuries for the Div 1 and Champ promotion campaigns.
From memory apart from the hamstring injury to Hirst last season, we had managed to avoid serious injuries and mainly avoided the multiple 2-3 week "niggle" injuries over the course of the 2 years, and I think that was a massive factor in our favour.
Looks like that luck has run out . . . |
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