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Reply | Anyone you know?
at 12:30 16 Sep 2025
Yep, and fair play for that - but how many people have seen these lies spread by Elon Musk and X and won't realise that, or won't hold their hands up.
It's a good example of the poison being fed by these which is infecting too many people, weakening trust in authorities etc. |
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Reply | Belfast recommendations
at 10:54 16 Sep 2025
I've got a mate who 3-4 times a year with his uni mates goes for a High Rollers lunch, last Thursday it was in Stockholm, they just go there, have a boozy lunch at a nice restaurant then come home about 6pm.
Don't think I could be bothered with it, or afford to do it very often! |
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Reply | Anyone you know?
at 10:44 16 Sep 2025
Was listening to yesterdays News Agents podcast on this, they had a crime journalist on this who has covered marches like this in the past.
His view that most people on this were relatively normal, certainly not like NF marches previously and this is why they've gone from getting a few hundred, and a most a few thousand to 100-150k people.
But that these people were now parroting far right tropes - claiming that Immigrants were 20x more likely to be sex offenders, and that it was turning into North Korea, and that Charlie Kirk is a hero, etc. All this stuff is far right talking points and int he first 2 cases demonstrably untrue, and the 3rd is just online talk and not from the real world whatever your opinion of him is - and that brand of ultra Christian fundamentalist belief is just not something we have in the UK.
Their view is that the likes of the BBC are just sleepwalking - that they try to reflect what the people are interested, but ignore the fact that people are interested because someone like Elon Musk is elevating all this rubbish across social media, and they don't realise that he is putting a foghorn on things which in realisty are not important or true.
All this talk of 'Free Speech', this march was in London which must be one of the most tolerant, liberal cities in the world.
99% of the people on the march aren't the ones frothing at the mouth at the front of it, but these dangerous lies are being allowed to spread and infect peoples thinkings.
Tommy Robinson is an out there racist, that Elon Musk is pushing him and sharing a platform with him, and pushing his messages is dangerous.
The Centre/left/Liberals need to stand as one and push back against this, Labour need to lead this - as currently they are letting this fester - that this many people were on a march led by a known racist like Robinson is worrying; we can't let social media and the billionaire class continue to set the agenda, because they are not normal, not like us and not right with what they say |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 16:26 15 Sep 2025
Yeh I get that he has said it, guess it's just how people would actually be when push comes to shove.
Bit like the Gore Vidal quote about homosexuality, the further extreme the viewpoint, the more likely they are to be a total hypocrite in their own life anyway
I read a really good piece earlier, which mentioned about him being a 'great debater'
‘If your definition of a debater is somebody who is 10-plus years older than the people he is debating, spends hours and hours a day coming up with arguments for his belief system, who goes to communities of much younger people, finds topics in which he is a great expert and a great debater on, brings them into the fold to discuss these topics, then uses what they say on videos that his organisation edits, and puts them online to mock his opponents and the views of his opponents, then [Kirk’s] a good debater.’ |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 16:04 15 Sep 2025
I definitely agree with the last part re where the starting point for legislation should be; and find these views and how mobilised and ongoing the campaigns are to be totally wrong.
It makes you realise that 'hard won right's , i.e. gay marriage in somewhere like America are not fixed forever, even when the battle is won it has to continue being fought and must be draining.
I think maybe because my world view is so far away from this dogmatic fundamentalist religious one, I just underestimate it to an extent because it just seems so mental how much people care about things that don't affect them in any way |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 14:45 15 Sep 2025
At no doubt because he's been asked that question and ends up, because of how debate is now, in not being able to show any form of nuance - it has to be black vs white.
Kirk's views were that of an extremist, but every grifter is like that these days - and he certainly was one |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 14:29 15 Sep 2025
Both sides of it, I feel like one side of debate gets backed into a corner of young girl being raped and having to carry to full term and the other ends up with any abortion ok up until birth when to me both sides of that are morally reprehensible* and the debate spends so long talking about such extreme positions we end up with actual talk of the massive nuance between those 2 extremes and no idea where the line should/could be drawn and why.
I just don't believe anyone talking about a 13 year old who is pregnant through rape would, in anything but a supposed hypothetical insist that they are not allowed to abort it
*I'm sure there are some situations amongst this where this isn't [i.e. if baby unviable and it likely to put mother life at risk to deliver] |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 09:19 15 Sep 2025
An awful story, and shouldn't happen in any developed country but I always find the argument very bad faith about it in general, would hope not but wouldn't even be surprised if the 'gotcha' style of argument used these days is making things worse for the extremes at both ends of the debate and their real life consequences |
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Reply | Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah
at 08:55 15 Sep 2025
Are there ever many examples of young girls being raped and being forced to carry to full term? It always strikes me as the counter argument to pro-abortion people would allow a mother to abort a healthy baby at 39 weeks.
I think people just get boxed in to what I would call extremist view points - I would certainly say Charlie Kirk was an extremist, and his views are from the side of politics I disagree with so am miles away from him |
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Reply | Song for Akpom suggestion...
at 16:04 12 Sep 2025
I've been walking round all day singing
Akpom, Akpom, Chuba Akpom
You can score a goal ev'ry time that you get on |
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Reply | There are people on here who think O’Shea is better than Wolf
at 16:10 11 Sep 2025
We conceded 6 less goals than Southampton, and scored 5 more.
It's team style, and how we elected to play in the main - not individuals and was why when we went away from home we could shut up shop if we needed too.
We conceded 25 in 23 away games, and whilst our home defensive record was mid table, we got the most points at home in the league |
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Reply | There are people on here who think O’Shea is better than Wolf
at 15:12 11 Sep 2025
"the defensive record was just one better than 18th place qpr"
What relevance is that? Leicester got relegated once with the best defence in the league.
Ours was 7th best in the league that season, and our attack was the best. That combo will get you pushing for automatic promotion.
We played in a way, especially at home, when we outscored teams where played for 1-0s away from home. If we'd have played at PR like we did away from it, we would have conceded far less goals, but it's about winning games. |
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Reply | Presser
at 14:55 11 Sep 2025
Azon has 'IVAN' on the back of his shirt so guess we'll need to go with that |
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Reply | GSTK 🏴🏴
at 17:40 10 Sep 2025
And I’m saying that Norway has a reform type party on the rise there, and a Conservative Party reduced to naught, so looks like it is following the same path despite longstanding stable immigration levels |
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Reply | Oh Mandy!
at 17:27 10 Sep 2025
As a stewardess with no interest in politics, you may as well just watch Below Deck if you want to see what it was like in the main! |
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