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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 09:37 24 Jul 2024
"You appear to think seven Labour MPs and Corbyn have the power to topple a Government with such a majority."
where have i said or implied that? so why make that up?
the lib dems weren't elected to form the government, and the 7 remnant corbynites weren't elected to undermine the government, however ineffective they undoubtedly are. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 08:38 24 Jul 2024
sultana was just on the radio saying that funding removal of the cap was easy - just need to increase capital gains tax and introduce a wealth tax. did she read the manifesto? clearly she didn't believe a word of it. given that, losing the whip actually seems a fair representation of where she stands politically - much more broadly than the benefits cap, she doesn't seem to support the government's programme. [Post edited 24 Jul 8:39]
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 08:08 24 Jul 2024
so it's just a coincidence that his core remaining backers came out in open opposition to the government on day one? just one of those random things that happens sometimes? could have been anyone. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 07:50 24 Jul 2024
while the issue is an important one, it's naive to believe that is all this is about. the core corbyn supporter group tried to put a marker down and to rally behind their hero. they were trying to establish themselves from day one as above the party and as a shadow opposition who intend to follow corbyn through the lobbies as and when called. starmer, quite rightly, is having none of it. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 07:33 24 Jul 2024
read the names. it's a group intending to act as a sect and as a shadow opposition to the party - it wants to align itself more with corbyn that with the government. they all have form and they were his core backers. anyone with any political nouse knows what they are up to. so well done to starmer for not tolerating their tactics from day one. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 07:30 24 Jul 2024
labour stood on, and made very explicit that, currently it couldn't afford to do this. it couldn't have been clearer and the manifesto left no doubt. no one voting labour could have been misled. i assume it will be a high priority once a fiscal gap opens up - within a couple of budgets i would suspect. but ignoring its fiscal rules within a couple of weeks and outside a budget would be very bad. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 22:44 23 Jul 2024
of course the reality is that they put support for corbyn before party. just a fortnight and they show their real intent. starmer is completely right not to tolerate a group who are loyal to their leader over the benches. |
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Reply | Control-freakery gone mad
at 22:24 23 Jul 2024
very good of the seven of them to detach themselves from the government so soon. avoids any confusion about what they really are. sad for their constituents who thought they were electing labour mps though. |
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Reply | Biden standing down (n/t)
at 13:04 22 Jul 2024
surely now we're free to just focus on trump's cognitive impairment. at least with biden it was nothing worse than getting older. |
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Reply | Beer
at 11:51 21 Jul 2024
guinness alcohol-free cans - the trick is to just pour them quickly. open can, immediately turn it over into the bottom of a pint glass, as the beer goes into the glass rise the can up. it never over flows. |
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Reply | Farage and Trump are spot on about the MSM
at 15:48 15 Jul 2024
factual described clacton as: ‘That whole area just spawns the brain dead’.
i guess that might be seen as demonising white working class people. or perhaps he thinks the residents of clacton are brain dead only because they snack on those cockles you can buy along the sea front? |
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Reply | Farage and Trump are spot on about the MSM
at 09:23 15 Jul 2024
what? "they would still be reporting like that". in the first seconds as the event unfolded they were live reporting and essentially didn't know what had happened. the bbc did the same and reported all it knew for certain - loud noises and trump surrounded by security. that'a the reality of instant reporting. within minutes the reports changed. you really need to stay away from social media because it is clearly very dangerous for you. |
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Reply | This sort of homophobia and hate in government
at 11:08 10 Jul 2024
ok, it was fun chatting. but just to leave the discussion with a finale caveat. you still haven't explained what you mean by 'trans rights'. what are they and are they different from the rights defined in the equality act? do 'trans rights' go beyond the equality act? how do you feel about sex based rights (also defined by the equality act)? what's your view on balancing different rights when conflicts arise? |
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Reply | This sort of homophobia and hate in government
at 09:57 10 Jul 2024
in what way has he "uturned" from support for trans rights? he is very clear that transpeople are entitled to the full protection of the law against harassment, discrimination and unfair treatment. he is a human rights lawyer and he is vocal in promoting those rights.
he is also properly stating the exceptions in the equality act that mean that biological sex remains relevant in some limited situations. is that the problem?
i'm not aware of significant transphobia within the party - or are you just equating respect for sex based rights with transphobia?
I think starmer is trying to take the heat out of this debate - whereas claims that he is threatening the "very existence" of transpeople is doing the exact opposite. |
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Reply | This sort of homophobia and hate in government
at 08:39 10 Jul 2024
"And this is why I'm genuinely scared by the movement of politics in general ... but also Starmer and his management way of considering transpeople's lives and very existence."
i'm not clear what you're getting at here. what has starmer said that is negative in terms of transpeople's "lives and very existence"? i'm only aware of him re-iterating the proper equalities position that transpeople are entitled to the full protection of the law against discrimination, harassment and unfair treatment, but that there are also a small number of situations in which their biological sex is still relevant. as a lawyer starmer has, as far as i can see, only stated what equalities legislation and the gender recognition act actually says. how is that a challenge to the "very existence" of transpeople? |
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Reply | Emily Thornberry
at 12:27 6 Jul 2024
she is an accident waiting to happen (and that's without mentioning that she was one of the 38 idiots who nominated corbyn as leader). |
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Reply | Reform
at 19:47 5 Jul 2024
i think you mistyped 'Everyone called Nick Clegg a grubby little compromise.'? |
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Reply | Your favourite politicians
at 19:45 5 Jul 2024
if they're labour it's a principled position - if they're not then they're thick racists. you need to learn these simple rules. |
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