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Reply | Corbyn's new party launched
at 22:18 3 Jul 2025
really? the reform / corbyn interface. the ultimate proof of all that horseshoe stuff. |
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Reply | Corbyn's new party launched
at 22:03 3 Jul 2025
george galloway will be upset that they're nicking his play book. hopefully he'll join them and complete the dream team. |
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Reply | Thank God for immigrants
at 14:52 3 Jul 2025
you're not explaining why uk tax payers would choose to admit people who the obr estimates will be a net cost of up to £1.5m over their life time. high skilled workers definitely. workers in the nhs definitely. genuine refugees definitely. but ...
out of interest who is going to pay for the higher wages in the care sector? it's an easy and attractive thing to demand but it comes at a cost - even confiscating the salary of 'care home bosses' won't go very far. |
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Reply | Thank God for immigrants
at 13:51 3 Jul 2025
the issue is that low wage and non-economically active migrants are a large net draw on public funds over their lifetime. regardless of the fact that some uk residents are unavoidably already a negative net draw on public funds, why would we choose to allow in people who are a large net cost to us? why would uk taxpayers make that choice to subsidise them? |
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Reply | Thank God for immigrants
at 12:07 3 Jul 2025
yes again it's a question of what criteria we apply in allowing migrants. if we need them in the care sector then that can be one test. but when we did do that the system was widely abused and then had to be changed - agencies were bringing people and dependents in through the care route but many were never working in the care sector. if wages were higher then perhaps more uk workers would do that work - but if the wages were higher who would pay for that.
my first post in the thread said that we should be determining who brings a benefit to us. that may well include care workers - but it gets nowhere near explaining the 3 million net migrants over a period of 4 years. |
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Reply | Thank God for immigrants
at 11:38 3 Jul 2025
i think that's a short-term forecast not a life-time assessment (it only goes to 2028/29).
what you need is:
https://obr.uk/docs/dlm_uploads/FRS-migration-supplementary-forecast-information
chart 4.13 is simplest. what it says is that if a migrant is on an average wage they are positive contributors until a very old age - essentially because they have arrived in their 20s and we haven't spent money on educating them and supporting them through childhood.
a low wage migrant never makes a positive fiscal contribution, and by very old age that amounts to a net cumulative cost of c. £1.5 million a head.
the point is that recent migration has become increasingly skewed towards low skill, low wage and economically inactive migrants (ie we have many more of those on the yellow curve in chart). |
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Reply | Diogo Jota
at 11:26 3 Jul 2025
that's just awful. |
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Reply | Fair play to the BBC, actually sticking up for a news presenter.
at 21:01 2 Jul 2025
so you don't engage with what's posted - you just post insults. no discussion of the issues raised, instead we have:
"othering of trans people"
"bigoted movements"
"least experience of others"
"least tolerant"
"sensationalised violence"
"hatred will breed"
"transform into rabid bigotry"
broad sweep editorialising, with nothing to back it up, just a contentless list of insults and no attempt to respond to what's been said. an attempt to assert your moral superiority and to stigmatise anything you disagree with. consider your virtue polished.
and your very first post was about the culture war being so dull? i just didn't realise that was meant entirely self-referentially. |
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Reply | Illegal drainage
at 19:53 2 Jul 2025
i guess the dodgy connection into the wrong drain could also have been added by the previous owner? but why would a washing machine cause the rainwater drain to back up? if it's just a build up of washing machine detritus can't you just rod it? i guess the cost of a proper fix will depend on how you get from the washing machine to the correct drain? |
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Reply | Fair play to the BBC, actually sticking up for a news presenter.
at 19:42 2 Jul 2025
lots. i also read widely and follow this debate. i know lots of women, and i have read writing by lots of women, who are concerned that biological women as a separate and distinct group are being erased and that their life experience is being dismissed. they dislike the idea that biological males can be taken as identical to them for all intents and purposes. many in fact see it as an expression of male power and misogyny. it's a really very prominent theme in this debate. |
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Reply | Fair play to the BBC, actually sticking up for a news presenter.
at 18:37 2 Jul 2025
but the point is that women's life experience is partly shaped by biology. adolescence, puberty, menstruation, fear of pregnancy, miscarriage, pregnancy, menopause, etc etc are all biological realities for women (clearly accepting that there is variation) and biology forms a significant part of the experience in life for most. to pretend that this happens to 'people' rather than to 'women' denies that biological reality and the life experience of women, and is seen by many as therefore insulting. 'people' do not go through these things, biological women do. |
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