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Reply | Portsmouth fan review of Paul Cook
at 09:05 1 Mar 2021
I'm not criticising anyone who has him as their preferred choice, what I am criticising is the notion that he is the perfect man for the job. His name has been doing the rounds for months, as if he is the magic man that will solve all our problems. Like I said, not my first choice but I have no problem with him coming in. Maybe in your haste to jump down others' throats you could actually take the time to read what has been said.
You're not worth talking to, it seems like your whole initiative is to create aggression where there is none - I'm just making a point that SOME not ALL have made out he is God's gift to management. He has the best record of the available candidates, and will probably be hired, but that does not make him my first choice.
Can't wait to see you jump down someone else's throat on the next thread where you feel like being a dick. I'm out. |
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Reply | Portsmouth fan review of Paul Cook
at 08:54 1 Mar 2021
The people that have been calling for him, specifically him, for months. I get he is probably the strongest candidate in terms of name and what he has achieved, but I myself would probably be more inclined to go for the Cowleys.
I don't think you will see a noticeable difference in the way the team is set up with Cook compared to Lambert, which has been a major complaint for months. You might not see that with the Cowleys either so where does that leave us?
Well, basically that whoever comes in has got a harder job to do than has been made out. I won't complain if Paul Cook comes, I just don't think he's the answer and if it was my money, he wouldn't be the one I'd spend it on. |
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Reply | Portsmouth fan review of Paul Cook
at 08:38 1 Mar 2021
Not sure it is particularly harsh, he has done reasonably well with teams that are expected to do reasonably well. Not taking anything away from him, but I'm not going to trumpet those as the most amazing successes in football either. He's done reasonably well, and if he does that here then we will go up.
I don't know who else you go for, some of the suggestions have been beyond crazy, so it probably will be him. I'm just not convinced he is the messiah that some think he is, but we'll probably see for ourselves and I hope I'm wrong! |
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Reply | Portsmouth fan review of Paul Cook
at 08:06 1 Mar 2021
Your review matches the one I got from a Pompey mate as well.
I'm not convinced he's the right man, think we could end up with a combination between the final days of Mick and the majority of Lambert's time. People seem to have just latched onto him because he's a name.
His record is reasonable, I won't argue with that but I'm not convinced he's the answer to all our problems. That being said, I'm not convinced anyone is. I'd rather us go left-field and appoint someone young and hungry but there's no guarantee whatever you do.
It's a difficult one, Cook will have my support if he comes in but I won't be surprised if it doesn't work out. |
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Reply | Americanisms you'll happily take and ones you won't
at 08:37 27 Feb 2021
Thank God it wasn't a fever dream!
I do remember them being of all shapes and sizes as I was about two rows back from the pitch and locked in agonising eye contact with one of them whilst my brother barely controlled a snigger.
For me, it was the song choices that were most comical - pretty sure they also bopped to Pump It Up and Sandstorm - classic. |
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Reply | Americanisms you'll happily take and ones you won't
at 08:17 27 Feb 2021
I know I'm late to the party, but does nobody else remember when we had cheerleaders before?
I swear it has happened at least twice during ME's era but I can't remember who the manager was. I'm pretty sure I was still a teenager (I vividly remember the discomfort) so I am inclined to think Roy Keane, maybe it was even Magilton.
As far as I remember they danced to Kernkraft 400 Zombie Nation in front of the Cobbold. I know this all sounds mental but I'm adamant this very uncomfortable experience happened before the match and at half time - anyone recall? |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 22:32 24 Feb 2021
Yeah that's a fair point, but I personally don't see the harm in eating meat if it is at a more sustainable level - my issue is the environmental harm and the harm to animals by the systems we have in place for feeding the world. We eat a lot more meat than we did in the past and that to me is the problem.
That's my stance though so yeah, fair enough I get what you're saying and that is a fair answer, I just don't personally see it as an issue to eat something living. I would still consider being vegan at some point, just not for that reason.
Clearly there is a big difference between us and other omnivores so yeah, I could see why you would expect us to be more than just another omnivore. But still in the grand scheme of things, that is all we are, just another omnivore. |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 22:22 24 Feb 2021
Yeah absolutely, the situation I am describing is exactly what you are describing in the 2nd paragraph - nowhere near the level of consumption that happens today. Whilst what I put forward is clearly an exaggerated version, all I'm asking is that if there were no capitalist structures for the production of animal products, would it be ethically wrong to eat meat caught by hunting and caught on an infrequent and hunter-gatherer subsistence basis?
I'm not saying one way or another is wrong, just curious what vegans think on the subject as obviously they have already made the switch to not consuming animal products. My personal stance is that it is the food industry that is the problem rather than the consumption of animal products.
Maybe my perspective would be different if we were not top of the food-chain 
I suspect you are right about the majority of people not being educated about food, however, for better or worse our culture is one of individual freedoms so reforms to the food industry is the first thing that needs to happen to bring about more widespread change.
I think my overall point is just that you're not a bad person because you choose to eat meat and you're not necessarily a good person just because you choose not to - you're just a product of your environment. The only thing that will change the balance is a global shift in policy rather than just growing numbers of individuals switching to veganism (although it's not doing any harm).That probably won't be popular but I've said my piece  |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 22:03 24 Feb 2021
As humans are omnivorous, then yeah, I would think the logic would be that typical omnivorous behaviours of eating meats are fine for humans to do too - I'm not really trying to make a point beyond that, I'm also not condoning the mass production of meat and the many harms that go into that - just that on a basic level, if an omnivore can either eat or not eat meat, then as an omnivore, so can a human |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 21:39 24 Feb 2021
But it isn't a logical point because it does not apply to all omnivores. All omnivores eat meat, not all omnivores are cannibals. |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 21:10 24 Feb 2021
That's quite a jump though isn't it - all other omnivores consume meat in some shape or form, but not all other omnivores have cannibalistic tendencies. One is a universal truth, the other is a specific outlier. |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 20:51 24 Feb 2021
I think the logical answer a lot of people would give you is that humans are omnivorous by nature. Therefore we could choose to eat meat, or choose not to. We are capable of choice and so I suppose most people would say that unless that choice is outright restricted, either choice is valid.
The wider point you make about the earth, about the conveyor-belt style of slaughterhouses and dairies and all of the nefarious things that go on in a society where we eat far too much meat are all completely valid and I absolutely back the thought process behind them.
If none of that existed and the overproduction of meat was not an issue and the earth was essentially in a state of nature, would you take issue with someone hunting a deer in the same way a bear hunts for salmon? None of the rampant consumerism, none of the environmental harm, just natural subsistence - is that problematic to you? Is the issue not more the way that we go about consuming animal products more than the actual act of consuming said animal products?
I'm not being intentionally facetious or trying to pull a 'gotcha' moment out, I just genuinely want to know |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 20:19 24 Feb 2021
I don't disagree that factory farming is deeply flawed, in fact I did make reference to that in my first comment. You are also right about the preferential treatment farmers are given.
You won't achieve much by just telling people that their choice of meal is wrong, particularly when a lot of people don't have the luxury of time and money to support such a rapid change of diet. We are omnivorous by nature, you will not change that by campaigning to the man in the street. The only way you will change a large degree of people's minds is by the development of cheaper and equally tasty synthetic meats and by effective political change, even then there will still be plenty who resist. |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 20:08 24 Feb 2021
I'm not disputing that, in the last day I saw something about a vegan sausage bap from Starbucks somewhere online. Predictably there are comments from people saying 'wouldn't touch it with a barge pole even if you did pay tax'. Obviously a mature and well-rounded response to what is essentially an advert you can just scroll past.
What doesn't help matters is when someone replies 'ugh carnivores, all the same' and the dumpster fire ensues. Everyone needs to do better, but you are absolutely right, it could all be avoided by non-vegans refraining from swinging their dicks in the first place. For whatever reason, there is just a large population of people who seem to think that this is all an agenda against their ability to eat what they want, when really nobody's choices are being curtailed, it's just that vegan options are becoming more common and some feel threatened by that  |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 19:59 24 Feb 2021
I'm really only talking about the kind of people that go to supermarkets to interrogate and intimidate people who are either buying or selling meat products. An extreme example that doesn't happen that much, but one which will get a lot of traction online through click-bait and tends to create a stigma among people who don't bother to read the article or look for a balanced argument against.
What I'm talking about is that there are a lot of people who, yes, do seem to be threatened by the rise of veganism and in turn react with aggression against that. The media, mainstream of social, consistently creates these arguments which then make people feel like they are being preached to, even if in reality they really aren't.
I'm not disputing the science at all. |
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Reply | Vegetarianism and veganism
at 19:43 24 Feb 2021
There are some people who are pretty sanctimonious about it all, I think that is what irks some people. I do make you right in that there are numerous reasons why vegetarianism and veganism should be taken more seriously, but just like any worthy cause there is always a cohort of militant holier-than-thou folk that harm the message - google 'That Vegan Teacher' for an extreme example.
It definitely goes both ways though, we've all seen some halfwit berating vegetarians and vegans on social media or pouring fuel on the fire of an advert for a vegan sausage roll from Greg's for the twitter clout. I think if more people knew how messed-up the production of food was in terms of animal rights and how much water is used is raising these animals for slaughter, and the negative impact this has on the environment, there would be more sympathy from carnivores... but that could be wishful thinking.
I have dramatically reduced the amount of meat and animal products I eat over the last 18 months but could definitely do more. I would find it hard to be able to afford a strictly vegan diet and still get enough nutrients at my size and build; nuts and pulses are an extremely expensive source of protein and vegan ready meals, just like non-vegan ones are loaded with crap we don't need.
With regards to your point about smoking, I quit smoking about a year ago and have to say I have definitely been preached to about that in the past as well. I was always a pretty considerate smoker because second-hand smoke is not something people generally want. A very overweight colleague of mine once had the brass neck to tell me that smoking was bad for me - I would probably have found myself in a disciplinary if I told her it was bad for her to eat as much as she did. |
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Reply | Kayden Jackson speaks
at 18:45 17 Feb 2021
I would imagine the decision has already been made but the changing of the guard is being done in the background so we can have a swift handover. His position is untenable at this point, I know none of us have any faith in Evans but I honestly think we'll have an announcement either tomorrow morning or tomorrow evening. |
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Reply | Growing up supporting Town since the mid 90s
at 17:13 17 Feb 2021
I have vague memories of the play off winning season but I was too young to really know what was going on. My first game was the PSV friendly in 2001 and its been downhill ever since. Even the days of Shefki, Pablo and Darren Bent seem distant now  |
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