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THis is an interesting video about problem with youngsters today. Everything is about instant gratification, and instant success that for things that end up really mattering like job satisfaction and relationship building they/we find it so much harder because it is so alien to them.
Makes some interesting points about using phones less and interracting with people more. Over the last few weeks I've tried to do this - realise I end up having pointless arguments on here, Twitter or Whatsapp when i should be doing things with my wife and little boy so need to try and cut down - because I am addicted to it in reality.
Interesting comments about how it isn't their/our fault, it's just the society we've been brought up in now - but it is leading to more depressions in younger people and just unhappiness as they are constantly trying to measure up to their peers.
*I hate the term millenial, although probably am one at the older end of the scale
Someone just needs to grab them and shake them into reality! My sister in law, 19 years old, is one fcking lazy cow, will sleep all day then complain she has no money. And they pussy foot around her! My 4 year old tidies up after herself better...
In my experience Millenials love calling themselves Millenials as a reminder to everyone else of how far they have climbed in a business despite being younger than the rest of us*. It somehow an acceptable form of ageism whilst getting the point across that because they are new and different they will of course have newer and better ideas than everyone else.
Personally I think anyone who refers to themselves as a Millenial should be obliged to have it tattooed of their forehead so that in 10 years when the next bright young things are on the scene they can feel especially old and washed up.
*I am not yet 40. As readers of the mid life crisis threat will know.
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The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:38 - Jan 5 with 2633 views
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:36 - Jan 5 by WD19
In my experience Millenials love calling themselves Millenials as a reminder to everyone else of how far they have climbed in a business despite being younger than the rest of us*. It somehow an acceptable form of ageism whilst getting the point across that because they are new and different they will of course have newer and better ideas than everyone else.
Personally I think anyone who refers to themselves as a Millenial should be obliged to have it tattooed of their forehead so that in 10 years when the next bright young things are on the scene they can feel especially old and washed up.
*I am not yet 40. As readers of the mid life crisis threat will know.
I cannot f-ing stand being labelled anything, not least a 'Millenial'.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:38 - Jan 5 by unbelievablue
This thread will go swiftly downhill.
I'd guess that - but the video is really worth a watch and makes some very salient points; a few of which hit home with me.
I feel that technology wise I am what he describes, but fortunately have the social skills to not worry - although have a lot of the impatience I've generally been upwardly mobile throughout career not to worry too much.
...is that they were, more often than not, helicopter-parented and their mum, and maybe their dad, thinks they are their best mate.
Always start with blaming the parents...
Of course, the Millennials parents are Generation Xers who grew up depressed and fearful, because they grew up in an era of high unemployment, nuclear threat, AIDS and IRA bombs in shopping centres, and because they were brought up by Baby Boomers who spent too much time on their careers because they had the lesson that life was theirs to make drummed into them by parents who had lived through either the Wars or the inter-war depression years and who wanted to see their children do better than them...
A gross over-simplification, but most parents over-react to something that was characteristic of their parents generation.
Philip Larkin - This Be The Verse
They f*ck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you.
But they were f*cked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don't have any kids yourself
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The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:58 - Jan 5 with 2550 views
The art of face to face conversation is dead and the trouble with that is humans operate better face-to-face, that's how God created us
However technology/the internet has positives one being it's much easier to rip people off using the internet then it is face-to-face
A negative is people want everything now, I believe some people call it the 'delete key' generation, i.e. when your losing on a computer game the user keeps stopping/restarting until they win, but real life isn't like that it involves hard work
But all generations are different, tolerance is key, however so long as the Millenials keep paying taxes so I get my pension, free bus pass, free everything else I'm ok with it
I'm not sure I would consider myself one, but I am basing that on the (young) athletes that I work with who when at international competitions spend majority of their time on their phone and even schedule Instagram and twitter posts throughout a week (producing a timetable with different poses etc). There are also some of the most socially awkward individuals I've ever met.
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The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:20 - Jan 5 with 2495 views
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:15 - Jan 5 by King_of_Portman_Rd
What age constitutes being a Millenial?
I'm not sure I would consider myself one, but I am basing that on the (young) athletes that I work with who when at international competitions spend majority of their time on their phone and even schedule Instagram and twitter posts throughout a week (producing a timetable with different poses etc). There are also some of the most socially awkward individuals I've ever met.
The video says roughly those born in 84 or after...
I was born in 85 so just scrape in. Feels like I am one in some ways but for those younger than me they become more and more of one....!
I like social media, I use it (too) frequently but not at expense of socialising with people in the main
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:36 - Jan 5 by WD19
In my experience Millenials love calling themselves Millenials as a reminder to everyone else of how far they have climbed in a business despite being younger than the rest of us*. It somehow an acceptable form of ageism whilst getting the point across that because they are new and different they will of course have newer and better ideas than everyone else.
Personally I think anyone who refers to themselves as a Millenial should be obliged to have it tattooed of their forehead so that in 10 years when the next bright young things are on the scene they can feel especially old and washed up.
*I am not yet 40. As readers of the mid life crisis threat will know.
Bit of a generalisation, which is the problem when large groups of people are shoehorned into labels, and then thought of the same way regardless of different personalities/ways of thinking.
I'm not dismissing your experience - for people who live their life through social media they start to go into autopilot and convince themselves they believe something or are a part of something that they're perhaps not.
'Millenials' (I concur with Unbelievablue - I hate that word, and labels in general) can certainly come across as entitled - social media, especially things like Facebook and Instagram, can encourage vanity which, addressing one of Joe's points, can lead to other people not feeling worthy, and desperately trying to appease people they barely speak to just because it's the done thing. On the other side, if you're not part of that and less sociable, it's very easy to feel left out and quite alone, which can quite easily lead to depression or even just unhappiness through not feeling like a part of something.
Again, depends on the characteristics of each individual person, but if I have to try and generalise, people often don't like being told something they don't want to hear, or being told they're someone they're not. Labeling people under one broad term I don't think is particularly helpful, especially in this case, as it can make someone feel like they're part of a problem that someone else completely different to them, but bracketed under the same term, is causing.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
The thread about if we haven't signed someone by Blackburn probably highlights the mentality of society today. Towards the latter stages of that thread are people discussing the Season Ticket Direct Debit scheme.
That post in particular sums it up for me. A contract has been entered, and now lets find a way out if it basically. It's like Callis and his carpets in his rented accommodation.
Not a pop at Callis at all by the way. It's just an example from this very site.
It's comparable to when you hear university lecturers tell of how they are accosted by students and given demands as the students are paying £9000 a year...
I hate our generation and the younger generation. I have trainee officers with me on the ship. The last one was an entitled little..... he didn't want to put effort in to learn, but wanted to be given everything. I offered to show him how to navigate by celestial bodies, no GPS, just proper old school navigating. The response I got was "I'm not really interested". He will only be interested when he has to learn it to pass a test. Nothing else. He'll learn it to pass a test and that will be that.
I asked him to clean the Wheelhouse. He said no. I informed him that why I asked him, it wasn't a question, it was a pleasant way of giving him an order. Cleaning the Wheelhouse is part of his education. He needs to do it to learn where things are, what buttons are where, he needs to learn about standards that the Wheelhouse should be kept. He wouldn't do it until I had told him all this. Still, he begrudgingly did it, and did a very poor job. I wouldn't want to be in a lifeboat with him. He'd be a nightmare.
These types from these generations haven't met much adversity, they haven't been challenged. They learn things to pass a test. Their parents wrap them in cotton wool, don't let them take risks, if something goes wrong they look for blame rather than how to do things better.
"Over the last few weeks I've tried to do this - realise I end up having pointless arguments on here, Twitter or Whatsapp when i should be doing things with my wife and little boy so need to try and cut down - because I am addicted to it in reality."
That's the sound of someone whacking the nail on the head. Anything in moderation is fine, but people are wasting their lives on this rubbish (yes, I understand the irony). My missus will regularly zone out of conversations to check some sh*te on her phone. And she's supposed to be intelligent. It's sad - we don't interact in the moment that well any more.
I think, like you, i'm one at the older end but I despise the term. Mainly because I really resent being thrown in with a group where the majority are spoilt, entitled, reality tv watching, heat magazine reading, celebrity obsessed, attention seeking, smug, 'just bought a muffin lol' tweeting morally bankrupt shallow bunch of *****.
I do realise that part of it is the world we live in now. As you say everything is instant and there is a constant need for some sort of stimulation. I've noticed this with myself. If I sit still for more than 5 seconds not doing something I will automatically get my phone out. I used to be able to sit and watch football. Now I have football on, my laptop on so I can talk on Skype and bet in play while playing a game on my phone.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:45 - Jan 5 by J2BLUE
I think, like you, i'm one at the older end but I despise the term. Mainly because I really resent being thrown in with a group where the majority are spoilt, entitled, reality tv watching, heat magazine reading, celebrity obsessed, attention seeking, smug, 'just bought a muffin lol' tweeting morally bankrupt shallow bunch of *****.
I do realise that part of it is the world we live in now. As you say everything is instant and there is a constant need for some sort of stimulation. I've noticed this with myself. If I sit still for more than 5 seconds not doing something I will automatically get my phone out. I used to be able to sit and watch football. Now I have football on, my laptop on so I can talk on Skype and bet in play while playing a game on my phone.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:45 - Jan 5 by J2BLUE
I think, like you, i'm one at the older end but I despise the term. Mainly because I really resent being thrown in with a group where the majority are spoilt, entitled, reality tv watching, heat magazine reading, celebrity obsessed, attention seeking, smug, 'just bought a muffin lol' tweeting morally bankrupt shallow bunch of *****.
I do realise that part of it is the world we live in now. As you say everything is instant and there is a constant need for some sort of stimulation. I've noticed this with myself. If I sit still for more than 5 seconds not doing something I will automatically get my phone out. I used to be able to sit and watch football. Now I have football on, my laptop on so I can talk on Skype and bet in play while playing a game on my phone.
Reading a book helps. I used to read insatiably, but drifted away from the habit. Now I pick up a book as many times as I can instead of turning to my iPhone.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:48 - Jan 5 by unbelievablue
Reading a book helps. I used to read insatiably, but drifted away from the habit. Now I pick up a book as many times as I can instead of turning to my iPhone.
I do read but i'm a millenial. I ain't holding no book and manually turning pages. #kindle
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 08:38 - Jan 5 by Keno
is that the term for kids who caught the millennium bug?
Here's a moderately uninteresting Y2K story.
The DSS, as it then was, had obvious concerns in the late 90s: what if midnight on 31 Dec 1999 caused the benefit IT systems to collapse, perhaps irreparably?
They were quickly reassured: the base date in their systems wasn't 1 Jan 1900, but 1 Jan 1852. The reason? When computerising they analysed the National Insurance data for the oldest recorded date of birth. That was something like 1862, so they added on a decade for extra safety. As the DSS Y2K project leader told me at the time 'If I could have found whoever made that decision, I'd have kissed them.'
To this day the benefits computers will randomly change the year of your birth on a letter to 1852.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 09:48 - Jan 5 by unbelievablue
Reading a book helps. I used to read insatiably, but drifted away from the habit. Now I pick up a book as many times as I can instead of turning to my iPhone.
My problem is I have to be really into a book for that to work - I enjoy plenty but have to have one which engages me totally for that to work.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 10:11 - Jan 5 by factual_blue
Here's a moderately uninteresting Y2K story.
The DSS, as it then was, had obvious concerns in the late 90s: what if midnight on 31 Dec 1999 caused the benefit IT systems to collapse, perhaps irreparably?
They were quickly reassured: the base date in their systems wasn't 1 Jan 1900, but 1 Jan 1852. The reason? When computerising they analysed the National Insurance data for the oldest recorded date of birth. That was something like 1862, so they added on a decade for extra safety. As the DSS Y2K project leader told me at the time 'If I could have found whoever made that decision, I'd have kissed them.'
To this day the benefits computers will randomly change the year of your birth on a letter to 1852.
The problem with 'Millenials'*..... on 10:02 - Jan 5 by unbelievablue
Deaf ears.
I hate them.
Portability - takes thousands of books with you wherever you go on a small kindle device
Durability - no torn pages, no covers getting tatty
Price - most kindle books are reduced dramatically from paper versions Taster books - often get the first book in a series for free. you get hooked and purchase the remaining books in the series.
Accessibility - pc, kindle device, apps on phone, cloud reader etc.
Instant downloads - as much as I truly love Waterstones and do enjoy the occasional trip down to purchase a book i've reluctantly had to accept that ebooks have won the war for J2's book spending pounds.
Environmentally friendly - no trees needed for the paper to produce real books.
Paper books are amazing and sometimes you want to read a proper book. Ebooks are better for me for all of the reasons above.
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