| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:33 - Jun 12 with 8372 views | BlueBadger |
*starts the 'balls' clock* |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:46 - Jun 12 with 8340 views | BackToRussia |
Good stuff cheers. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:56 - Jun 12 with 8333 views | gordon |
Good article that. For me it all stems from the fact that none of the details of what a 'leave' vote would look like were specified before the vote. So since the referendum we've had endless different guesses from politicians about what the decision meant and what the will of the people was and is. This is only the beginning of the chaos. I think we'll get through a few Governments/Prime Ministers in the next few years. |  | | |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:59 - Jun 12 with 8326 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
Brexit wasn't an election issue. The youth and BAME vote swung the election and their issues are tuition fees, NHS funding and identity politics.
Any competent party will take advantage of this in future |  | | |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:01 - Jun 12 with 8317 views | Freddies_Ears |
"The people" are split, almost 50/50, so there can be no chance of consensus, whether on Brexit or domestic political issues.
The popular vote was just a wee bit higher for the progressives, but the parliamentary balance is just a wee bit tilted to the right. But neither has any legitimate mandate to impose their will on the other half. And any re-vote could easily tip the other way.
If it weren't for the urgency, the complexity and overriding importance of Brexit, we could smile inwardly about the contradictions of Britishness. We'd keep calm and carry on, hoping the rest of the world wouldn't notice that we have made ourselves utterly ungovernable. |  | | |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:07 - Jun 12 with 8301 views | lowhouseblue |
"Brexit is an elite project dressed up in rough attire. When its Oxbridge-educated champions coined the appealing slogan “Take back control,” they cleverly neglected to add that they really meant control by and for the elite."
that bit is nonsense. how the leavers voted in the general election shows that that they have no coherent view on what brexit was supposed to mean or what it was expected to involve. that reinforces the view that brexit was simply a protest vote - leavers had suffered from austerity and stagnation and they badly wanted to kick something - the eu was the thing they kicked. it wasn't an 'elite project'. 'oxbridge' voted against it more strongly than anyone. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:09 - Jun 12 with 8302 views | homer_123 |
Doesn't get off to the best of starts though, does it.
"To understand the sensational outcome of the British election, one must ask a basic question. "
I cannot fathom how anyone was 'surprised' at that election result, in any way whatsoever. It's neither exceptional, sensational, surprising or anything else. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:11 - Jun 12 with 8288 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:07 - Jun 12 by lowhouseblue |
"Brexit is an elite project dressed up in rough attire. When its Oxbridge-educated champions coined the appealing slogan “Take back control,” they cleverly neglected to add that they really meant control by and for the elite."
that bit is nonsense. how the leavers voted in the general election shows that that they have no coherent view on what brexit was supposed to mean or what it was expected to involve. that reinforces the view that brexit was simply a protest vote - leavers had suffered from austerity and stagnation and they badly wanted to kick something - the eu was the thing they kicked. it wasn't an 'elite project'. 'oxbridge' voted against it more strongly than anyone. |
Cambridge was one of the highest remain votes, so try again. | | | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:16 - Jun 12 with 8289 views | Steve_M |
"And the answer is that the Brits want what they can’t possibly have. They want everything to change and everything to go as before."
Which is why, even now, both Labour and Tories, for their separate ideological reasons, continue to deny there is any choice between ending free movement and remaining in the single market. All scared that if the public realises that there are costs, which in the short-term at least will be significant, then public opinion will change. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:19 - Jun 12 with 8264 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:56 - Jun 12 by gordon |
Good article that. For me it all stems from the fact that none of the details of what a 'leave' vote would look like were specified before the vote. So since the referendum we've had endless different guesses from politicians about what the decision meant and what the will of the people was and is. This is only the beginning of the chaos. I think we'll get through a few Governments/Prime Ministers in the next few years. |
Chaos.
Chaos will be the word of the year.
Chaos will be rammed down out throats by our politicians and media.
There'll be terrorists causing chaos on our streets.
Chaos caused by civil unrest.
Chaos over Brexit.
Chaos in our parliament.
Chaos everywhere.
And while chaos engulfs us, there's a very real possibility that we'll end up with a government of national unity to prevent a "Coalition of Chaos".
All brought to us courtesy of our strong and stable government. [Post edited 12 Jun 2017 9:38]
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:20 - Jun 12 with 8256 views | lowhouseblue |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:11 - Jun 12 by Freddies_Ears |
Cambridge was one of the highest remain votes, so try again. |
yes that's what i said - 'oxbridge' voted against brexit. so try again. [Post edited 12 Jun 2017 9:21]
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:31 - Jun 12 with 8234 views | Darth_Koont |
Yep. A brutal assessment but that's the reality when we strip away all the political rhetoric and posturing. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:34 - Jun 12 with 8223 views | Darth_Koont |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:09 - Jun 12 by homer_123 |
Doesn't get off to the best of starts though, does it.
"To understand the sensational outcome of the British election, one must ask a basic question. "
I cannot fathom how anyone was 'surprised' at that election result, in any way whatsoever. It's neither exceptional, sensational, surprising or anything else. |
Really? I'm not surprised why people voted the way they did, but I am surprised they went against the orthodox narrative and actually did vote that way.
The result itself was a shock. | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:41 - Jun 12 with 8210 views | factual_blue |
Yep. People were tricked by stupid slogans to vote leave by an obscene coalition of self-serving tories determined to 'save' their party and a handful of non-resident press barons interested only in selling newspapers. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:42 - Jun 12 with 8203 views | factual_blue |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 08:33 - Jun 12 by BlueBadger |
*starts the 'balls' clock* |
Too many long words for that to kick in. | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:49 - Jun 12 with 8177 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:34 - Jun 12 by Darth_Koont |
Really? I'm not surprised why people voted the way they did, but I am surprised they went against the orthodox narrative and actually did vote that way.
The result itself was a shock. |
It's interesting, isn't it?
Is this a victory for new media over old media or a loss for old media over new media?
Is this yet another dastardly example of Russian subversion?
Is the BBC losing its ability to mould public opinion like it used to?
Or are an increasingly significant number of people fed up with the current government and voted the unelectable terrorist appeasing, antisemite condoning Corbyn. | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:52 - Jun 12 with 8174 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:41 - Jun 12 by factual_blue |
Yep. People were tricked by stupid slogans to vote leave by an obscene coalition of self-serving tories determined to 'save' their party and a handful of non-resident press barons interested only in selling newspapers. |
I'm still trying to work out Murdoch's motives for pushing Brexit. I don't think it's about newspaper sales - there's not much money in that. Any thoughts? | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:53 - Jun 12 with 8178 views | manchego |
Now that people are slowly getting a clue about what brexit means, do you think we could have a referendum on it ? |  | | |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:56 - Jun 12 with 8149 views | BlueBadger |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:42 - Jun 12 by factual_blue |
Too many long words for that to kick in. |
Ah yes, but using long words is a sign of Liberal Elitism.
See also: reading books without pictures, knowing how to actually use the English language, having qualifications, etc | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:57 - Jun 12 with 8142 views | blue_oyster |
It's certainly a political mess, demonstrating the fact that referendums are not part of the British constitution. But the contempt for democratic vote in the article is all too clear. |  |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:57 - Jun 12 with 8144 views | StokieBlue |
Some good analysis of the Brexit points in that article. It's been a total screw-up. May has been awful, continues to be awful and will be awful until she is pushed out.
"But what do you do when your crowd-pleasing applause lines have to become public policy? "
Surely this could have been applied to Corbyn's manifesto as well as May's nonsense one-liners?
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 10:01 - Jun 12 with 8121 views | BlueBadger |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:57 - Jun 12 by blue_oyster |
It's certainly a political mess, demonstrating the fact that referendums are not part of the British constitution. But the contempt for democratic vote in the article is all too clear. |
Ah the classic 'if you disagree with stupid decisions then you hate democracy' fallacy. | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 10:29 - Jun 12 with 8068 views | dryas |
Good find. |  | | |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 10:33 - Jun 12 with 8061 views | factual_blue |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 09:56 - Jun 12 by BlueBadger |
Ah yes, but using long words is a sign of Liberal Elitism.
See also: reading books without pictures, knowing how to actually use the English language, having qualifications, etc |
People who say 'balls' all the time almost certainly have cryptorchidism. | |
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| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 10:34 - Jun 12 with 8054 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brilliant summary of recent events in the UK on 10:01 - Jun 12 by BlueBadger |
Ah the classic 'if you disagree with stupid decisions then you hate democracy' fallacy. |
It was a stupid decision to rest Brexit on a majority vote.
Two Tory politicians cut from the same cloth (Cameron and Johnson) headed opposing campaigns and the media turned the whole charade into a debate largely about immigration.
Britain's media and particularly the BBC are culpable. They were largely mouthpieces for the politicians many of us have lost faith in.
There was no intelligent investigative journalism exposing Brexit for the cheap scam it was or any real effort to understand the consequences of a Brexit vote.
I don't blame people for voting the way they did. Most people are too busy to independently analyse the intricacies of extracating a country from a body like the EU. They rely on (and indeed should rely on) a competent, impartial national broadcaster. British people pay handsomely for such a service but were let down.
I'm dismayed that so many people continue to rely on the BBC for quality investigative journalism. Perhaps the rise in popularity for Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party is a sign that maybe things are changing for the better. | |
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