| Leach out of Ashes 17:21 - Jun 4 with 3361 views | Samuelowen88 |
Devastating for him, has come on so much, and just seems to fit with this team.
Who comes in? Ahmed? Bess? |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 17:29 - Jun 4 with 3120 views | gainsboroughblue |
That is a blow. Stokes' captaincy has given him a real boost in the last year. The captain himself worries me too, despite his bravado saying he is fine to bowl. I'm not so convinced.
As for who comes in for Leach, Parkinson will be probably be the favourite. Ahmed needs a full year for Leicester imo and actually get some overs under his belt. I reckon Aus would take him for 6 or 7 an over right now. |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 17:52 - Jun 4 with 3065 views | catch74 |
I do wonder if we’ll go extra quick bowler, rely on Root for spin. If McCullum could have a word with Moeen Ali he’d be a perfect short term replacement. |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:20 - Jun 4 with 3009 views | waspsforever1 |
| Leach out of Ashes on 17:29 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue |
That is a blow. Stokes' captaincy has given him a real boost in the last year. The captain himself worries me too, despite his bravado saying he is fine to bowl. I'm not so convinced.
As for who comes in for Leach, Parkinson will be probably be the favourite. Ahmed needs a full year for Leicester imo and actually get some overs under his belt. I reckon Aus would take him for 6 or 7 an over right now. |
root now the all rounder his bowling is underrated one more seamer |  | | |
| Tuffers. (n/t) on 18:21 - Jun 4 with 3008 views | Bloots |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:27 - Jun 4 with 2998 views | bournemouthblue |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:20 - Jun 4 by waspsforever1 |
root now the all rounder his bowling is underrated one more seamer |
A senior spinner is going to be important if Stokes can't bowl
We really don't have a lot of backup |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:29 - Jun 4 with 2991 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Leach out of Ashes on 17:29 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue |
That is a blow. Stokes' captaincy has given him a real boost in the last year. The captain himself worries me too, despite his bravado saying he is fine to bowl. I'm not so convinced.
As for who comes in for Leach, Parkinson will be probably be the favourite. Ahmed needs a full year for Leicester imo and actually get some overs under his belt. I reckon Aus would take him for 6 or 7 an over right now. |
If stokes doesn't play, who'd you bring in? Some saying foakes might get a shout. | |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:31 - Jun 4 with 2984 views | chicoazul |
Believe Stokes is out too… |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:38 - Jun 4 with 2970 views | gainsboroughblue |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:31 - Jun 4 by chicoazul |
Believe Stokes is out too… |
Really? Not seen that.
Maybe we'll see something like this.
Crawley (let's face it, he's not going anywhere)
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Bairstow
Dawson (more to shorten the tail)
Woakes
Robinson
Broad
Anderson
Edit. Or maybe Wood for Woakes if we want pace. [Post edited 4 Jun 2023 18:40]
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| Leach out of Ashes on 18:51 - Jun 4 with 2905 views | Yallop2 |
Go get Moeem | | | |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:52 - Jun 4 with 2903 views | Yallop2 |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:31 - Jun 4 by chicoazul |
Believe Stokes is out too… |
Nonsense | | | |
| Stokes, Foakes, Woakes.... on 18:58 - Jun 4 with 2883 views | Bloots |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:29 - Jun 4 by Samuelowen88 |
If stokes doesn't play, who'd you bring in? Some saying foakes might get a shout. |
....one of those blokes. | |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 19:52 - Jun 4 with 2786 views | Guthrum |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:31 - Jun 4 by chicoazul |
Believe Stokes is out too… |
Pretty much half out already, given his ability to bowl looks dubious, at best. Not being able to run between the wickets will be a real drawback, too - not every situation can be handled by smashing the ball around. That frequently leads to very short innings for the batter, however skilled they may be. |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 20:15 - Jun 4 with 2751 views | chicoazul |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:51 - Jun 4 by Yallop2 |
Go get Moeem |
They’ll replace him with a seamer and give Root 30 overs a day, bound to happen. | |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 20:24 - Jun 4 with 2736 views | tonybied |
| Leach out of Ashes on 19:52 - Jun 4 by Guthrum |
Pretty much half out already, given his ability to bowl looks dubious, at best. Not being able to run between the wickets will be a real drawback, too - not every situation can be handled by smashing the ball around. That frequently leads to very short innings for the batter, however skilled they may be. |
Whenever I've seen him play test cricket in the last year I've thought to myself I can't see it being too long before he's forced to retire due to his knee problems. I truly think if he wasn't captain he probably would've done already. |  | | |
| Leach out of Ashes on 20:32 - Jun 4 with 2718 views | Trequartista |
Derek Underwood? You don't need to run much do you. |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 21:28 - Jun 4 with 2656 views | Ely_Blue |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:31 - Jun 4 by chicoazul |
Believe Stokes is out too… |
Stokes to open if he can’t bowl? Drop Crawley |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 22:16 - Jun 4 with 2595 views | stonojnr |
| Leach out of Ashes on 20:24 - Jun 4 by tonybied |
Whenever I've seen him play test cricket in the last year I've thought to myself I can't see it being too long before he's forced to retire due to his knee problems. I truly think if he wasn't captain he probably would've done already. |
Ive always maintained making him captain accelerated this point with his injuries, because he's the kind of person who will ignore the pain barrier and play through it because he wants to give his all for the team all the time and as captain there was never anyone to tell him, no you need to rest.
Leach's job as a bowler was always to hold an end to build pressure, rather than be a bowler who was a match winner, I dont think Root can fill that role for the whole series, I think there are spinners in the county game England can turn to, its whether they choose to that counts. | | | |
| Leach out of Ashes on 23:35 - Jun 4 with 2513 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Leach out of Ashes on 18:38 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue |
Really? Not seen that.
Maybe we'll see something like this.
Crawley (let's face it, he's not going anywhere)
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Bairstow
Dawson (more to shorten the tail)
Woakes
Robinson
Broad
Anderson
Edit. Or maybe Wood for Woakes if we want pace. [Post edited 4 Jun 2023 18:40]
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If Stokes can't bowl, the decision has been made to give Bairstow the gloves over Foakes (which I disagree with) and given that Leach is now out, I would go:
Ali
Duckett
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Bairstow
Robinson
Broad (floating Nighthawk)
Tongue (the brave choice) or Woakes (the conservative choice) (who would bat above Robinson and Broad)
Anderson
We lose out on having a genuine world class all rounder if Stokes can't bowl, but by having Ali covering both 2/3 of the spin bowler, and Root the other 1/3, as well as opener, and Bairstow as wicket keeper as well as batsman you make up for that loss.
6 bowling options plus Stokes. And 7 batsman who have the potential to take the game away from Australia, if they get in, with a very respectable tail.
Australia have a weaker batting line up, with two greats.
England have the weaker bowling line up, with two greats (in English conditions). | | | |
| Stokes, Foakes, Woakes.... on 23:47 - Jun 4 with 2505 views | PhilTWTD |
| Stokes, Foakes, Woakes.... on 18:58 - Jun 4 by Bloots |
....one of those blokes. |
Jokes! |  | | |
| Stokes, Foakes, Woakes.... on 07:41 - Jun 5 with 2398 views | solemio |
| Stokes, Foakes, Woakes.... on 23:47 - Jun 4 by PhilTWTD |
Jokes! |
When? | | | |
| Leach out of Ashes on 14:25 - Jun 5 with 2255 views | Radlett_blue |
| Leach out of Ashes on 17:52 - Jun 4 by catch74 |
I do wonder if we’ll go extra quick bowler, rely on Root for spin. If McCullum could have a word with Moeen Ali he’d be a perfect short term replacement. |
Root is a part time spinner who can be effective if the ball is turning e.g. on the sub continent. He can't do the Leach role, which in a home Ashes series was likely to be tying up one end while the fast bowlers rest. That's likely to be more important as I can't see Stokes bowling more than a few overs. However, the Aussies would definitely attack Leach & I'm not sure he would have played a b ig role this summer unless the ball was turning. Moeen is unlikely to play; he doesn't like playing against Australia, probably because of their persistent sledging & he has a poor record against them. He has also never been a "tie the opposition down" type of spinner. Rehan Ahmed is too inexperienced & wrist spinners (excepting Warne) have never done much in England. Parkinson is equally a non-starter. THe options are to rely on a little part time spin from Root, in which case we need a 4th seamer as Stokes will hardly bowl, or an experienced spin bowler like Liam Dawson, who can probably tie down an end. |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 14:32 - Jun 5 with 2239 views | Melford |
| Leach out of Ashes on 14:25 - Jun 5 by Radlett_blue |
Root is a part time spinner who can be effective if the ball is turning e.g. on the sub continent. He can't do the Leach role, which in a home Ashes series was likely to be tying up one end while the fast bowlers rest. That's likely to be more important as I can't see Stokes bowling more than a few overs. However, the Aussies would definitely attack Leach & I'm not sure he would have played a b ig role this summer unless the ball was turning. Moeen is unlikely to play; he doesn't like playing against Australia, probably because of their persistent sledging & he has a poor record against them. He has also never been a "tie the opposition down" type of spinner. Rehan Ahmed is too inexperienced & wrist spinners (excepting Warne) have never done much in England. Parkinson is equally a non-starter. THe options are to rely on a little part time spin from Root, in which case we need a 4th seamer as Stokes will hardly bowl, or an experienced spin bowler like Liam Dawson, who can probably tie down an end. |
What might have been
I’d love to play for England,” he said. “I feel it would be a way of repaying the faith English cricket has shown in me by allowing me to play here.
“English cricket has given me the opportunity to become a better person and a better player. So I would ultimately like to get a British passport and be naturalised in the UK, especially for my future family.”
https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/brexit-ruined-simon-harmers-hopes-playing-engl |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 14:38 - Jun 5 with 2229 views | Mookamoo |
| Leach out of Ashes on 14:25 - Jun 5 by Radlett_blue |
Root is a part time spinner who can be effective if the ball is turning e.g. on the sub continent. He can't do the Leach role, which in a home Ashes series was likely to be tying up one end while the fast bowlers rest. That's likely to be more important as I can't see Stokes bowling more than a few overs. However, the Aussies would definitely attack Leach & I'm not sure he would have played a b ig role this summer unless the ball was turning. Moeen is unlikely to play; he doesn't like playing against Australia, probably because of their persistent sledging & he has a poor record against them. He has also never been a "tie the opposition down" type of spinner. Rehan Ahmed is too inexperienced & wrist spinners (excepting Warne) have never done much in England. Parkinson is equally a non-starter. THe options are to rely on a little part time spin from Root, in which case we need a 4th seamer as Stokes will hardly bowl, or an experienced spin bowler like Liam Dawson, who can probably tie down an end. |
They'll just play Broad and Wood and get Root to provide the spin
Another option is they play Lawrence and get hime to bowl a few |  | | |
| Leach out of Ashes on 15:00 - Jun 5 with 2215 views | blueasfook |
The worst thing about closed season in football?
Having to put up with cricket bores posting... |  |
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| Leach out of Ashes on 14:14 - Jun 7 with 1966 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Leach out of Ashes on 17:29 - Jun 4 by gainsboroughblue |
That is a blow. Stokes' captaincy has given him a real boost in the last year. The captain himself worries me too, despite his bravado saying he is fine to bowl. I'm not so convinced.
As for who comes in for Leach, Parkinson will be probably be the favourite. Ahmed needs a full year for Leicester imo and actually get some overs under his belt. I reckon Aus would take him for 6 or 7 an over right now. |
If stokes doesn't play, who'd you bring in? Some saying foakes might get a shout. | |
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