| The world is fooked 08:53 - Jun 17 with 19102 views | Herbivore |
Being realistic about it, Boris is going to be our next PM. The Tory party see him as, somehow, being someone who can win elections against the Labour party and have decided that this is clearly more important than resolving Brexit in a way that doesn’t destroy the country and indeed more important than what is best for the country in general. Concerns about his lack of competence and integrity have been pushed aside in the interests of preserving the Conservative Party and their grip on power. Standard, but depressing nonetheless.
More broadly, though, is there anything more indicative of how badly we’re fooked as a society than Boris and Trump coming to power? Neither man is remotely capable of the job they have been tasked with, both are where they are solely on the back of white male privilege and nothing more. They are the definition of the triumph of elitism over meritocracy.
Let’s start with Trump. The man is a thick bigot, the most fragile egotist imaginable. The Trump blimp triggered him so badly precisely because it was so accurate. He pitches himself as a successful businessman who knows how to get deals done, someone who is not part of the establishment and who has been a huge success. Bigly successful. And yet, if he’d simply put the vast wealth he inherited from his father into a savings account he would be wealthier than he is now. He has failed as a businessman many times over and any mitigating success has come solely because his vast inherited wealth has enabled him to try and try again. His one selling point is based on smoke and mirrors.
He has managed to ride a wave of mainly white working-class discontent through carefully managed populist rhetoric that is as dangerous as it is vacuous. His litany of misdemeanours would make him unemployable if he came from any other background, yet pure wealth and privilege has enabled him to bankroll his way to power. If his followers really feel that white males are being marginalised by liberalism, they need only look at the fact that Trump is in power as proof that this is not remotely the case.
As for Boris, the man is simply a nasty, power-hungry incompetent. Born to wealth and privilege, from very early on his character was marked by seeking power at all costs. Even at Eton and Oxford he was more concerned with gaining power and notoriety than actually excelling as a student, and he was willing to do whatever was needed to get there. Sounds familiar? As a journalist he was sacked for falsifying a quote, a journalistic offence so egregious that it would usually spell the end of a career. Yet Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson has been given chance after chance, purely because of his name and privilege rather than his talent.
As an MP he has held one cabinet position and was an abject failure. Not only did he fail to achieve anything at all of note, numerous reports suggest that he was simply unfit for the role; frequently he was not well-briefed, not interested in detail, and seemingly uninterested when attending important meetings. That’s without even considering that he endangered the life of a UK citizen through his own lazy carelessness when talking about why she was in Iran. He still refuses to take any responsibility for that, despite it once again being such an horrendous error that it would cost most people their job, let alone somehow pave the way for them to hold an even more responsible job. All this before we even consider the overt racist remarks, the dog-whistling, the general question marks over his poor character and total lack of any principles (writing two articles backing both remain and leave, anyone?).
Sorry for the lengthy rant, but it really boils my piss that we have these snake oil salesman in positions of power. They are where they are not because of any talent they have, not because they are the best men for the job, not because they have a positive vision for their countries. They are where they are because of wealth and privilege, nothing more. Their sole focus in on maintaining their privilege and on preserving a system that rewards such privilege.
The worst of it is that they are doing so by exploiting unrest amongst the working classes, unrest caused by the kind of social and economic inequalities that they and their cronies are responsible for. And they know this, yet they point the finger at other disadvantaged groups and lay the blame at their door. It’s easy to do, it plays on a base instinct in people to blame the ‘other’ rather than someone that looks like them and speaks their language (in more ways than one). They are backed by the wealthy and powerful in the media who share their overriding agenda to preserve the dominance of wealthy elites, and this simply makes the power train an irresistible force with no immovable object available at our disposal to oppose it.
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| The world is fooked on 18:27 - Jun 18 with 1990 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 18:16 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
While you are correct that private companies will never act in the interests of the wider public the EU is establishing the framework in which they operate. The Euro imho is a monumental own goal, Greece should certainly never have been encouraged to sign up and had lost potential competitive advantage because of it.
It is true that the EU is disproportionately copping the anti globalism flack.....however they, like many others, aren't exactly falling over themselves to encourage debate about a new way forward. |
But they do have the clout to actually make stuff happen, and compared to other major powers like the US and China their record on things like workers' rights and the environment is pretty good.
I think we fundamentally disagree though on globalism, or at least regionalism. I think for any meaningful change to happen it needs to be on a big scale, one nation alone cannot swim against the tide. On that basis we're better off in a power bloc than out of one.
I respect your position though, even if I don't agree with it. | |
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| The world is fooked on 18:34 - Jun 18 with 1975 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The world is fooked on 18:27 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
But they do have the clout to actually make stuff happen, and compared to other major powers like the US and China their record on things like workers' rights and the environment is pretty good.
I think we fundamentally disagree though on globalism, or at least regionalism. I think for any meaningful change to happen it needs to be on a big scale, one nation alone cannot swim against the tide. On that basis we're better off in a power bloc than out of one.
I respect your position though, even if I don't agree with it. |
If Varoufakis and DiEM25 start to make some headway I will reconsider....
https://diem25.org/what-is-diem25/ |  |
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| The world is fooked on 18:54 - Jun 18 with 1965 views | jimmyvet |
God your such a drama queen! The world is nowhere near fooked indeed for the vast majority of the worlds population the world has never been a better place. Get a life and start trying to enjoy life rather than peddling the same junk day in day out because it’s boring! Imagine you going back 75 years when the world was fooked compared to now, you seriously need to grow up. |  | | |
| The world is fooked on 18:57 - Jun 18 with 1954 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 18:54 - Jun 18 by jimmyvet |
God your such a drama queen! The world is nowhere near fooked indeed for the vast majority of the worlds population the world has never been a better place. Get a life and start trying to enjoy life rather than peddling the same junk day in day out because it’s boring! Imagine you going back 75 years when the world was fooked compared to now, you seriously need to grow up. |
Great input. Nothing to do with my post, but great input nonetheless. | |
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| The world is fooked on 18:58 - Jun 18 with 1948 views | HolyGoalie |
| The world is fooked on 18:57 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
Great input. Nothing to do with my post, but great input nonetheless. |
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| The world is fooked on 19:03 - Jun 18 with 1938 views | ROKERITE |
| The world is fooked on 18:54 - Jun 18 by jimmyvet |
God your such a drama queen! The world is nowhere near fooked indeed for the vast majority of the worlds population the world has never been a better place. Get a life and start trying to enjoy life rather than peddling the same junk day in day out because it’s boring! Imagine you going back 75 years when the world was fooked compared to now, you seriously need to grow up. |
You're right and it's thanks to capitalism. Capitalism is responsible for dragging hundreds of millions out of poverty. Corbyn would prefer the Venezuela way; people starve but hey it's socialism and of course socialists really care about the downtrodden. | | | |
| The world is fooked on 19:05 - Jun 18 with 1932 views | HolyGoalie |
| The world is fooked on 19:03 - Jun 18 by ROKERITE |
You're right and it's thanks to capitalism. Capitalism is responsible for dragging hundreds of millions out of poverty. Corbyn would prefer the Venezuela way; people starve but hey it's socialism and of course socialists really care about the downtrodden. |
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| The world is fooked on 19:05 - Jun 18 with 1932 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 19:03 - Jun 18 by ROKERITE |
You're right and it's thanks to capitalism. Capitalism is responsible for dragging hundreds of millions out of poverty. Corbyn would prefer the Venezuela way; people starve but hey it's socialism and of course socialists really care about the downtrodden. |
You've already had your pants pulled down on this issue on the other thread. | |
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| The world is fooked on 19:10 - Jun 18 with 1924 views | ROKERITE |
| The world is fooked on 19:05 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
You've already had your pants pulled down on this issue on the other thread. |
Are you seriously trying to deny that it is capitalism that has enriched the world? | | | |
| The world is fooked on 19:13 - Jun 18 with 1919 views | ROKERITE |
| The world is fooked on 19:05 - Jun 18 by HolyGoalie |
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What is humane about the suffering of millions which socialism has inflicted? Socialists are people who prefer what sounds good over what actually works. Capitalism works, socialism fails. | | | |
| The world is fooked on 19:17 - Jun 18 with 1905 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 19:10 - Jun 18 by ROKERITE |
Are you seriously trying to deny that it is capitalism that has enriched the world? |
No, I'm saying you fundamentally misunderstand the difference between moderate social democracy and Soviet communism. You seem to think Labour advocate the latter when in fact they advocate the former. | |
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| The world is fooked on 19:26 - Jun 18 with 1891 views | footers |
| The world is fooked on 19:13 - Jun 18 by ROKERITE |
What is humane about the suffering of millions which socialism has inflicted? Socialists are people who prefer what sounds good over what actually works. Capitalism works, socialism fails. |
Are you suggesting capitalism hasn't killed and enslaved people and continues to do so? |  |
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| The world is fooked on 19:34 - Jun 18 with 1877 views | ROKERITE |
| The world is fooked on 19:26 - Jun 18 by footers |
Are you suggesting capitalism hasn't killed and enslaved people and continues to do so? |
Not in anything like the numbers socialism has and does. The evidence is all there if you'll take off the rose coloured spectacles and see how socialism has held back developing nations. In Africa for example nation after nation went down the socialist route after independence and thus followed poverty and military dictatorships. The one nation that pursued a more free market approach is the one which has been most prosperous and has had continuous democracy since it became independent; Botswana.
Anyway, when are you going to follow your hero's example and recognise The E.U. for the undemocratic monster that it is? | | | |
| The world is fooked on 19:36 - Jun 18 with 1875 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 19:26 - Jun 18 by footers |
Are you suggesting capitalism hasn't killed and enslaved people and continues to do so? |
I mean, Tory austerity has wiped out the equivalent of the population of Ipswich in the last few years in what is meant to be a wealthy capitalist country. [Post edited 18 Jun 2019 19:36]
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| The world is fooked on 19:42 - Jun 18 with 1864 views | footers |
| The world is fooked on 19:34 - Jun 18 by ROKERITE |
Not in anything like the numbers socialism has and does. The evidence is all there if you'll take off the rose coloured spectacles and see how socialism has held back developing nations. In Africa for example nation after nation went down the socialist route after independence and thus followed poverty and military dictatorships. The one nation that pursued a more free market approach is the one which has been most prosperous and has had continuous democracy since it became independent; Botswana.
Anyway, when are you going to follow your hero's example and recognise The E.U. for the undemocratic monster that it is? |
O rly?
(BTW I'm not actually Michael Foot - he died quite some time ago) | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:06 - Jun 18 with 1836 views | BloomBlue |
| The world is fooked on 19:36 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
I mean, Tory austerity has wiped out the equivalent of the population of Ipswich in the last few years in what is meant to be a wealthy capitalist country. [Post edited 18 Jun 2019 19:36]
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Utter cr*p, where is your evidence.
Austerity was required because socialist spunked all the money. Typical socialism; do as we say, don't do as we do. |  | | |
| The world is fooked on 20:09 - Jun 18 with 1831 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The world is fooked on 20:06 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Utter cr*p, where is your evidence.
Austerity was required because socialist spunked all the money. Typical socialism; do as we say, don't do as we do. |
So the banking and financial elites would have you believe sucker! | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:14 - Jun 18 with 1825 views | BloomBlue |
| The world is fooked on 20:09 - Jun 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So the banking and financial elites would have you believe sucker! |
No Labour admitted the cupboard was bare. | | | |
| The world is fooked on 20:15 - Jun 18 with 1825 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 20:06 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Utter cr*p, where is your evidence.
Austerity was required because socialist spunked all the money. Typical socialism; do as we say, don't do as we do. |
Erm, the economic crash was caused by rampant, unregulated capitalism specifically in the banking sector. Nothing to do with socialism whatsoever.
Here is my evidence: https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/health-and-social-care-spending-cuts-linked
I await your apology. | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:17 - Jun 18 with 1824 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 20:14 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
No Labour admitted the cupboard was bare. |
New Labour weren't close to being socialists. My word. And the cupboard was bare in large part because of the economic crash. | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:21 - Jun 18 with 1815 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The world is fooked on 20:14 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
No Labour admitted the cupboard was bare. |
Guess who had nicked it all....I think Eurostat figures show debt to gdp was 47 % in 2007 and rose to 87% by 2014....now what might have happened between those two dates? | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:24 - Jun 18 with 1809 views | BloomBlue |
| The world is fooked on 20:17 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
New Labour weren't close to being socialists. My word. And the cupboard was bare in large part because of the economic crash. |
If was mostly because socialist Labour spunk all the cash, giving away gold for 50% of it's real value, borrowing and borrowng instead of saving for a rainy day.
Socialism has always resulted in debt and unemployment and this Labour (socialist party) will only lead to that if it did get into power because its anti business and its businesses that drive the wealth. | | | |
| The world is fooked on 20:26 - Jun 18 with 1807 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 20:24 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
If was mostly because socialist Labour spunk all the cash, giving away gold for 50% of it's real value, borrowing and borrowng instead of saving for a rainy day.
Socialism has always resulted in debt and unemployment and this Labour (socialist party) will only lead to that if it did get into power because its anti business and its businesses that drive the wealth. |
My word. That's just totally detached from reality.
I'm still waiting for my apology by the way, I gave you evidence for the austerity related deaths after you asked for it and accused me of talking crap. | |
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| The world is fooked on 20:35 - Jun 18 with 1791 views | BloomBlue |
| The world is fooked on 20:26 - Jun 18 by Herbivore |
My word. That's just totally detached from reality.
I'm still waiting for my apology by the way, I gave you evidence for the austerity related deaths after you asked for it and accused me of talking crap. |
That article proves nothing, it hasn't factored in people live longer we have a much higher percentage of older people in this country than we did 20 years ago and you have to factor in age and clearly that hasn't fully factored that in. | | | |
| The world is fooked on 20:36 - Jun 18 with 1783 views | Herbivore |
| The world is fooked on 20:35 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
That article proves nothing, it hasn't factored in people live longer we have a much higher percentage of older people in this country than we did 20 years ago and you have to factor in age and clearly that hasn't fully factored that in. |
Head in the sand. Or somewhere else. | |
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