| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto 22:34 - Nov 24 with 999 views | Pinewoodblue |
Can't work out how it is going to cost £58B. The decision to raise the pension age for women to 65 was made, under pressure from the EU, back in 1995 by a Conservative government. Labour had plenty of time, under Blair, to do something about it but chose not to.. Instead, in 2007, they announced plans to rise the pension age to 66 and then 67 for both men and women.
My wife had 17 years warning that she wouldn't receive her pension until she was 62. Annoyingly had she been born a day earlier she would have received her pension a year earlier. Plenty of time to get finances in order.
What was wrong was Osborne accelerating the process so it was complete two years earlier and then bringing the age up to 66 in 2020 for both m,en and women.
If any compensation is paid it should only be for the latter years which I would have thought wouldn't have cost £58B |  |
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 07:58 - Nov 25 with 846 views | Steve_M |
Yes, the initial analysis I saw yesterday suggested that they had conflated the 1995 policy change with Osborne's.
All adds to the belief that this isn't a manifesto for winning power as much as positioning the party for when Corbyn goes. |  |
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:09 - Nov 25 with 829 views | BloomBlue |
It's because it's not a manifesto it is 'pie in the sky'. Remember before they published JC refused to answer some questions on the Andrew Marr telling him he had to wait for the manifesto "it is all in there". They are just adding things in the desperate hope it gets votes knowing the only way they can afford is to increase taxes on everyone.
But the Cons manifesto isnt any better, no manifesto ever is they are all worthless. |  | | |
| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:11 - Nov 25 with 824 views | DanTheMan |
| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:09 - Nov 25 by BloomBlue |
It's because it's not a manifesto it is 'pie in the sky'. Remember before they published JC refused to answer some questions on the Andrew Marr telling him he had to wait for the manifesto "it is all in there". They are just adding things in the desperate hope it gets votes knowing the only way they can afford is to increase taxes on everyone.
But the Cons manifesto isnt any better, no manifesto ever is they are all worthless. |
Conservatives have taken an unusual position by basically not doing a manifesto.
Can't break promises if they aren't written down I guess... |  |
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:28 - Nov 25 with 797 views | Herbivore |
| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:11 - Nov 25 by DanTheMan |
Conservatives have taken an unusual position by basically not doing a manifesto.
Can't break promises if they aren't written down I guess... |
It also gives them the freedom to basically do what they want should they get a majority. Anyone voting Tory is giving the worst, most dishonest, vile government in history carte blanche to do what they want. |  |
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 09:08 - Nov 25 with 767 views | StokieBlue |
Regardless of the subject matter it's hard to accept a party that says they have fully costed their manifesto who 3 days later add something else which is a large amount of money and will win votes and then the Shadow Chancellor states it will be paid for using:
“very special arrangement, a contingency”
And leaves it at that. It makes a mockery of the whole thing.
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 09:10 - Nov 25 with 764 views | StokieBlue |
| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 08:28 - Nov 25 by Herbivore |
It also gives them the freedom to basically do what they want should they get a majority. Anyone voting Tory is giving the worst, most dishonest, vile government in history carte blanche to do what they want. |
To be fair all parties have that freedom if they have a majority. You are totally correct that people won't really know the plan for the next 5 years (except more of the same) given the Tory manifesto.
It was always going to be like this though, they weren't ever going to publish a 107 pager like Labour. The less that is in there the less there is for Boris to remember and not contradict.
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| Labour's pension sweetner, not in the manifesto on 09:24 - Nov 25 with 737 views | WeWereZombies |
If it is contingent then maybe the £58 billion relies on Corbyn cancelling Brexsh!t (or being part of a coalition that has the resolve to) and saving the, probably a lot more than, £50 billion that leaving the European Union will cost... |  |
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