| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival 18:01 - Oct 31 with 7732 views | carlisleaway |
Should have taken up the bid from QPR.......slows down any attack from midfield |  | | |  |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 09:57 - Nov 2 with 603 views | Steve_M |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 09:42 - Nov 2 by clive_baker |
We have an inexperienced spine in that our 2 centre halves are 19 and 20, with Dozzell sitting in front of them, and Bishop who while isn't a kid, isn't overly experienced. I think he's completed more 90 minutes this season than he had for us in his career previously. Woolfy, Bishop and Dozzell are quite meek, whether that will change over time remains to be seen as they grow in confidence and experience, but I would like to see a little more aggression and guile in the midfield. Whether that comes from Downes who himself is only 21, perhaps Skuse will come into back into the fold at some stage? I hate the term game management but that bit of experience through the spine of the side, whether it be off the bench or in certain games is lacking from our current side. In my preferred XI of our 2 CB's and 3 in central midfield they're 19, 20, 21, 21, 24. |
To reinforce your last point, Ward showed the benefit of that experience on Saturday just taking time out of the game and slowing everything down. |  |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 00:18 - Nov 5 with 536 views | Garv |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 12:41 - Nov 1 by Herbivore |
Genuinely, what good things? Think he's now on about 5 or so assists in almost 2 years at the club and that's a really poor return for someone who is not only a set piece takerr but was signed to be a creative influence. He's given licence to roam and all he does is run around like a headless chicken. We've barely seen any of his supposed quality during his time here. And in the current system he holds us back imo. [Post edited 1 Nov 2020 18:52]
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It's more than five but even then assist stats don't tell the whole story do they?
They don't tell the story of Lankester not scoring the second half chance on Tuesday that Judge played him in for, nor the chance put on a plate for Drinan against Bristol Rovers (possibly Wigan, can't remember). He didn't get an assist for Edwards' goal against Wigan, because Norwood happened to get a touch before Edwards scored. He put Sears away with a cross-field pass early doors against Crewe that Sears failed to control properly, having cleared the ball from his own box originally and made a positive run forwards.
And in the last few games he's proved to be quite organised and industrious. He was often the one dropping deep to get the ball and get play going against Sunderland, especially after Dozzell went off. He's played an important role in an inexperienced midfield recently.
It's also more than two months shy of two years, during which time 1-2 months of football was cancelled. |  |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 07:34 - Nov 5 with 486 views | vindicatedblue |
The aqueduct. |  | | |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 09:24 - Nov 5 with 468 views | Herbivore |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 00:18 - Nov 5 by Garv |
It's more than five but even then assist stats don't tell the whole story do they?
They don't tell the story of Lankester not scoring the second half chance on Tuesday that Judge played him in for, nor the chance put on a plate for Drinan against Bristol Rovers (possibly Wigan, can't remember). He didn't get an assist for Edwards' goal against Wigan, because Norwood happened to get a touch before Edwards scored. He put Sears away with a cross-field pass early doors against Crewe that Sears failed to control properly, having cleared the ball from his own box originally and made a positive run forwards.
And in the last few games he's proved to be quite organised and industrious. He was often the one dropping deep to get the ball and get play going against Sunderland, especially after Dozzell went off. He's played an important role in an inexperienced midfield recently.
It's also more than two months shy of two years, during which time 1-2 months of football was cancelled. |
It's about 6 assists, maybe 7. In nearly two years. And whilst they don't tell the whole story, unless you are trying to claim that our players only miss chances created by Alan Judge then it's a pretty relevant metric for determining how well a supposedly creative player who takes set pieces is contributing to the side. And how many goals has he weighed in with? 3 or 4? In 50+ games playing with licence to roam in the opponent's half? That's a poor contribution.
I see you and a couple of others are now having to resort to talking up his work rate to justify his lack of end product. Much of his running is very headless chicken, and in any case he's not in the side to graft, he's in there to create chances and score goals. As I said, he's now basically a Poundland Jay Tabb, which is fine, but we have players who can offer a lot more than that and it's a rather poor place for him to be when his fans were telling us 15 months ago that he was way too good for League 1 and would tear the division up. |  |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 10:43 - Nov 7 with 418 views | Garv |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 09:24 - Nov 5 by Herbivore |
It's about 6 assists, maybe 7. In nearly two years. And whilst they don't tell the whole story, unless you are trying to claim that our players only miss chances created by Alan Judge then it's a pretty relevant metric for determining how well a supposedly creative player who takes set pieces is contributing to the side. And how many goals has he weighed in with? 3 or 4? In 50+ games playing with licence to roam in the opponent's half? That's a poor contribution.
I see you and a couple of others are now having to resort to talking up his work rate to justify his lack of end product. Much of his running is very headless chicken, and in any case he's not in the side to graft, he's in there to create chances and score goals. As I said, he's now basically a Poundland Jay Tabb, which is fine, but we have players who can offer a lot more than that and it's a rather poor place for him to be when his fans were telling us 15 months ago that he was way too good for League 1 and would tear the division up. |
Of course he's in there to graft. I'd be surprised if you didn't think the Sunderland game was one we needed to work hard in to get anything out of. As it happened the other night he grafted - and it wasn't headless chicken like at all if you watched - and created chances.
If your point is that he should be disappointed with what he's achieved at the club, which you've made clear, then there won't be many arguments, at least not from me. The point is that his place is currently merited, and the only reason I get involved in these threads is that he's simply not given any credit even when it's deserved, in fact he gets the opposite. He disappoints every game in the eyes of many simply because he's not the same player he was 5 years ago. | |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 13:03 - Nov 7 with 391 views | Herbivore |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 10:43 - Nov 7 by Garv |
Of course he's in there to graft. I'd be surprised if you didn't think the Sunderland game was one we needed to work hard in to get anything out of. As it happened the other night he grafted - and it wasn't headless chicken like at all if you watched - and created chances.
If your point is that he should be disappointed with what he's achieved at the club, which you've made clear, then there won't be many arguments, at least not from me. The point is that his place is currently merited, and the only reason I get involved in these threads is that he's simply not given any credit even when it's deserved, in fact he gets the opposite. He disappoints every game in the eyes of many simply because he's not the same player he was 5 years ago. |
He disappoints most games, yeah. Probably around one in four or five he makes a worthwhile contribution. He doesn't justify his place at all. We have better CMs than him and he's never a wide forward in a million years. There are several players I'd pick ahead of him. His role now should be as cover for Bishop if he needs a rest, but he's taking up a fair old chunk of wages to basically be a back up. | |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 21:56 - Nov 9 with 350 views | Garv |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 13:03 - Nov 7 by Herbivore |
He disappoints most games, yeah. Probably around one in four or five he makes a worthwhile contribution. He doesn't justify his place at all. We have better CMs than him and he's never a wide forward in a million years. There are several players I'd pick ahead of him. His role now should be as cover for Bishop if he needs a rest, but he's taking up a fair old chunk of wages to basically be a back up. |
Even aside from the fact that we have very limited midfield options, and players up top in and out of form, he has justified his place recently. | |
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| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 22:07 - Nov 9 with 342 views | Herbivore |
| What has Judge done for ITFC since his arrival on 21:56 - Nov 9 by Garv |
Even aside from the fact that we have very limited midfield options, and players up top in and out of form, he has justified his place recently. |
You have low standards it seems. He's done very little to warrant a place. | |
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