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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! 00:12 - Nov 12 with 1323 viewsSpruceMoose

Dark days ahead for America. 60,000,000 voted for the guy promising more of this kind of stuff.

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-based-stickman-enrique-tarrio-goys-1546597

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 00:17 - Nov 12 with 1291 viewsjeera

Hmm.

""We will no longer cuck to the left by appointing token negroes as our leaders. We will no longer allow homosexuals or other 'undesirables' into our ranks. We will confront the Zionist criminals who wish to destroy our civilization.

"We recognize that the West was built by the White Race alone and we owe nothing to any other race."

Maybe this lot will wipe themselves out and do us all a favour.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 00:22 - Nov 12 with 1265 viewsSpruceMoose

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 00:17 - Nov 12 by jeera

Hmm.

""We will no longer cuck to the left by appointing token negroes as our leaders. We will no longer allow homosexuals or other 'undesirables' into our ranks. We will confront the Zionist criminals who wish to destroy our civilization.

"We recognize that the West was built by the White Race alone and we owe nothing to any other race."

Maybe this lot will wipe themselves out and do us all a favour.


Bloody Middle Class White Boys. Clearly we just need to listen to their Very Real Concerns and they'll become upstanding citizens overnight. Or something.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 06:50 - Nov 12 with 1114 viewsBlueBadger

Didn't one of them once shove a dildo up his arse to prove they weren't a homophobic hate group?

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 07:02 - Nov 12 with 1104 viewsBlueBadger

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 00:22 - Nov 12 by SpruceMoose

Bloody Middle Class White Boys. Clearly we just need to listen to their Very Real Concerns and they'll become upstanding citizens overnight. Or something.


'Due to the recent failure of Proud Boy Chairman Enrique Tarrio to conduct himself with honor and courage on the battlefield'

What battlefield? Only place these pricks have ever seen action is Bubba's Bar and Grill in Possumsh*t, Arkansas after someone once was accidentally polite to a black person.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 08:59 - Nov 12 with 968 viewsGuthrum

These groups always do that. Falling out, feuding and splintering over ego and personality clashes, who gets to be "der Fuhrer" of their dozen or so members, seizures of "power" by more or less extreme/open elements, or someone simply turning out to be a liability due to their sheer insanity.

One of the reasons I'm less concerned about them at a national level*. They simply can't keep it together long enough to be really effective.

Worth noting that even Hitler got rid of his rabble-rousers and potential rivals almost as soon as he was in power (the Night of the Long Knives, in 1934).



* Tho on a small scale, they can be dangerous, even lethal. As we have seen.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 09:01 - Nov 12 with 957 viewsDanTheMan

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 06:50 - Nov 12 by BlueBadger

Didn't one of them once shove a dildo up his arse to prove they weren't a homophobic hate group?


Yes, that would be Gavin McInnes, who founded the group.

And of course I'm absolutely shocked that the dog whistle group attracted Nazis.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 09:06 - Nov 12 with 948 viewsDanTheMan

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 08:59 - Nov 12 by Guthrum

These groups always do that. Falling out, feuding and splintering over ego and personality clashes, who gets to be "der Fuhrer" of their dozen or so members, seizures of "power" by more or less extreme/open elements, or someone simply turning out to be a liability due to their sheer insanity.

One of the reasons I'm less concerned about them at a national level*. They simply can't keep it together long enough to be really effective.

Worth noting that even Hitler got rid of his rabble-rousers and potential rivals almost as soon as he was in power (the Night of the Long Knives, in 1934).



* Tho on a small scale, they can be dangerous, even lethal. As we have seen.


The main issue with these groups isn't that they themselves will get power, but that they can spread their ideas at will. All you need is a computer to spread your message to millions.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 09:26 - Nov 12 with 910 viewsGuthrum

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 09:06 - Nov 12 by DanTheMan

The main issue with these groups isn't that they themselves will get power, but that they can spread their ideas at will. All you need is a computer to spread your message to millions.


However, most of them (being rabidly insane themselves) are incapable of framing their arguments in a way which can be stomached by the average person. The only people who are not repelled are those whose views already align with them.

Even the dangerous few with PR skills can only provide a veneer of rationality. Pretty soon, that thin crust is broken through and the noisy mess beneath becomes visible. They may be able to feed the odd meme into the public consciousness, but I doubt they have got anyone parading the streets with guns who wasn't already inclined in that direction.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:11 - Nov 12 with 874 viewswoiii

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 06:50 - Nov 12 by BlueBadger

Didn't one of them once shove a dildo up his arse to prove they weren't a homophobic hate group?


We've all done it
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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:14 - Nov 12 with 871 viewsDanTheMan

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 09:26 - Nov 12 by Guthrum

However, most of them (being rabidly insane themselves) are incapable of framing their arguments in a way which can be stomached by the average person. The only people who are not repelled are those whose views already align with them.

Even the dangerous few with PR skills can only provide a veneer of rationality. Pretty soon, that thin crust is broken through and the noisy mess beneath becomes visible. They may be able to feed the odd meme into the public consciousness, but I doubt they have got anyone parading the streets with guns who wasn't already inclined in that direction.


You say that, and yet QAnon is supported by people with actual power for example. There are now two congressmen who openly support it.

I personally think you underestimate who quickly these things spread now, and how well supported they are.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:15 - Nov 12 with 866 viewsStokieBlue

"White Genocide".

That's offensive on so many levels, most of which I am certain the idiot doesn't understand.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:33 - Nov 12 with 837 viewsGuthrum

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:14 - Nov 12 by DanTheMan

You say that, and yet QAnon is supported by people with actual power for example. There are now two congressmen who openly support it.

I personally think you underestimate who quickly these things spread now, and how well supported they are.


The issue with that is more that those individuals (and, to a large extent, Trump) have piggy-backed upon an existing movement, the Republican Party. Which large numbers of people will vote for regardless of the candidate.

In actual fact, Greene ended up unopposed after the Dem candidate dropped out. Boebert appears to have won with a slightly reduced margin on her predecessor.

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Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:42 - Nov 12 with 824 viewsDanTheMan

Infighting begins between the secret Nazis and flaming out and proud Nazis! on 10:33 - Nov 12 by Guthrum

The issue with that is more that those individuals (and, to a large extent, Trump) have piggy-backed upon an existing movement, the Republican Party. Which large numbers of people will vote for regardless of the candidate.

In actual fact, Greene ended up unopposed after the Dem candidate dropped out. Boebert appears to have won with a slightly reduced margin on her predecessor.


But that's still a problem, right? The conspiracy has moved beyond fringe and into the mainstream where it can grow further.

It doesn't really even matter if these people truly believe it or are just jumping on the bandwagon. They are giving legitimacy to it and riling up their base. It's already had real world consequences.

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