| Rainbow collalition? 09:41 - May 8 with 1822 views | bluelagos |
So a few thoughts over the results. Firstly, clearly terrible results for Labour in England. We can argue all day why, but one simple fact seems clear to me: The right is now unified as the Tory party (no Brexit party - reform did sfa) but the left is split between Lab / Lib / Greens and nationalists.
In total - I don't see a huge disparity - just that the electoral system rewards parties over 40% which Labour is nowhere near. Same voting split in a general election and the Tories are in 100+ majority territory.
So - is it time for a left of center collation? Divide up the seats and just put up one candidate in every seat at the election? [Post edited 8 May 2021 9:42]
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| Rainbow collalition? on 12:12 - May 8 with 285 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Rainbow collalition? on 11:42 - May 8 by Guthrum |
But without the SNP, would any grand coalition stand a chance of defeating the Conservatives? |
I think so. The SNP will win almost every seat in Scotland even without an alliance being in place. The alliance between Labour/Greens/Lib Dems/Plaid is needed in England and Wales.
The main barrier is Labour accepting that they cannot stand in every seat and the Lib Dems accepting that they are very much a junior party in any coalition.
I wonder if the SDLP and SInn Fein would be willing to stand down for each other in a few NI constituencies too. |  | | |
| Rainbow collalition? on 12:22 - May 8 with 266 views | Guthrum |
| Rainbow collalition? on 11:54 - May 8 by Darth_Koont |
Should do. They’ll clearly need to avoid this being drawn up on Leave/Remain lines but in a more normal election an alliance would only need 40% of the vote, probably even less as it would be targeted campaigning.
But I can see the biggest barrier to it being the media. Who will of course dress it up as Leave vs. Remain and exaggerate/misrepresent every aspect of an alliance. Just like on the Labour Right, a progressive alliance would be the biggest threat to their personal and professional establishment aspirations.
The best hope is that such a movement would pull Labour back towards something more relevant: representing the country and people’s actual interests. |
Are you sure? Assuming the SNP do not suffer a collapse and that absolutely eveyone else non-Conservative barring the DUP, Alba and Sinn Feinn takes part (with the last continuing their boycott), then the Grand Coalition would need to win a minimum of 43 seats in England and Wales, with no Tory gains. That's quite a tall order.
Media and funding are two of the biggest issues in politics worldwide, let alone the UK.
What are the population's actual interests? For most of them is seems to be a few quid in their pockets and a sense of self-worth. Even a pandemic has only had a superficial impact upon the erosion of the idea of "society" being important to the wellbeing of the individual. |  |
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