| Good news & bad news 23:29 - Jun 2 with 764 views | Ryorry |
Good news - Netanyahu gone.
Bad news - he'll probably fight dirty & could come back?
Will a strange coalition be able to hold it together?
Also - I'm no expert, but isn't it rather a downside of PR that extremist parties can end up holding the balance of power? |  |
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| Good news & bad news on 23:41 - Jun 2 with 718 views | factual_blue |
From the BBC:
'Naftali Bennett, who appears likely to become Israel's next prime minister, is a former commando and self-made tech millionaire who says he is further to the right than Benjamin Netanyahu and rejects the concept of a Palestinian state.' |  |
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| Good news & bad news on 23:44 - Jun 2 with 705 views | SpruceMoose |
| Good news & bad news on 23:41 - Jun 2 by factual_blue |
From the BBC:
'Naftali Bennett, who appears likely to become Israel's next prime minister, is a former commando and self-made tech millionaire who says he is further to the right than Benjamin Netanyahu and rejects the concept of a Palestinian state.' |
What could possibly go wrong (for Palestine)?! |  |
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| Good news & bad news on 23:48 - Jun 2 with 689 views | Ryorry |
| Good news & bad news on 23:41 - Jun 2 by factual_blue |
From the BBC:
'Naftali Bennett, who appears likely to become Israel's next prime minister, is a former commando and self-made tech millionaire who says he is further to the right than Benjamin Netanyahu and rejects the concept of a Palestinian state.' |
This is the kind of thing I was referring to when citing "extremists holding the balance of power" as a potential downside of PR. | |
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| Good news & bad news on 23:50 - Jun 2 with 686 views | Guthrum |
They can hold the balance of power where the constitution goves them extra influence (as in Israel, with the Orthodox parties), or where there is already considerable instability (Italy, Greece), but it is by no means always the case (Germany, Netherlands, Scandinavia). |  |
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| Good news & bad news on 23:52 - Jun 2 with 678 views | Guthrum |
| Good news & bad news on 23:41 - Jun 2 by factual_blue |
From the BBC:
'Naftali Bennett, who appears likely to become Israel's next prime minister, is a former commando and self-made tech millionaire who says he is further to the right than Benjamin Netanyahu and rejects the concept of a Palestinian state.' |
But, if you want to take down Likud, you need his party's seats. | |
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| Good news & bad news on 00:14 - Jun 3 with 644 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Good news & bad news on 23:50 - Jun 2 by Guthrum |
They can hold the balance of power where the constitution goves them extra influence (as in Israel, with the Orthodox parties), or where there is already considerable instability (Italy, Greece), but it is by no means always the case (Germany, Netherlands, Scandinavia). |
Also in several counties there is a 'cordon sanitaire' where mainstream parties refuse to work.with extremists, even if it means forgoing power.
The centre-right parties in Sweden could have formed a government after the last election if they'd been willing to work with the populist/right Swedish Democrats but did the honourable thing and let the Social Democrats form a minority government.
However this only works in cases where politics is a bit more grown up than here.
Back to the OP, this also marks the first time an Arab party will be part of a coalition government (there have been some before but they don't really count as they were satellite lists of Labour and it's predecessors). This is a big f**k you to Hamas - one of the reasons it was thought they kicked off the recent conflict was to stop this happening as it's a big step in Israeli politics and in the long run could see some improvements in communal relations.
Having said that, most of the members of the three other Arab parties are reportedly planning to vote against the new government despite knowing the alternative is Netanyahu. If they had played ball, Lapid wouldn't have even needed Bennett to form a government and could have formed a centrist/left coalition.. Sadly the old Abba Eban saying ("the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity") also seems to apply to their brethren that remained in Israel...
Bennett and his party are dangerous ideologues - one of their main aims is to replace the judiciary with people who aren't so keen on upholding basic laws and freedoms and to allow the Knesset to overrule the Supreme Court. Hopefully they can be kept in check. [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 0:19]
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| Good news & bad news on 05:47 - Jun 3 with 536 views | Ryorry |
| Good news & bad news on 00:14 - Jun 3 by Clapham_Junction |
Also in several counties there is a 'cordon sanitaire' where mainstream parties refuse to work.with extremists, even if it means forgoing power.
The centre-right parties in Sweden could have formed a government after the last election if they'd been willing to work with the populist/right Swedish Democrats but did the honourable thing and let the Social Democrats form a minority government.
However this only works in cases where politics is a bit more grown up than here.
Back to the OP, this also marks the first time an Arab party will be part of a coalition government (there have been some before but they don't really count as they were satellite lists of Labour and it's predecessors). This is a big f**k you to Hamas - one of the reasons it was thought they kicked off the recent conflict was to stop this happening as it's a big step in Israeli politics and in the long run could see some improvements in communal relations.
Having said that, most of the members of the three other Arab parties are reportedly planning to vote against the new government despite knowing the alternative is Netanyahu. If they had played ball, Lapid wouldn't have even needed Bennett to form a government and could have formed a centrist/left coalition.. Sadly the old Abba Eban saying ("the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity") also seems to apply to their brethren that remained in Israel...
Bennett and his party are dangerous ideologues - one of their main aims is to replace the judiciary with people who aren't so keen on upholding basic laws and freedoms and to allow the Knesset to overrule the Supreme Court. Hopefully they can be kept in check. [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 0:19]
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Very interesting & informative stuff, thanks (Guthers too). | |
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