| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition 20:04 - Jun 23 with 2004 views | Darth_Koont |
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/23/keir-starmer-labour-lose-o
We’ve basically got an opposition who are more concerned with cementing their establishment credentials (and future careers) than addressing the real issues of the UK in 2021. And those issues are getting bigger and tougher globally, let alone in the UK which was already slipping backwards.
Pull your fingers out.
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| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 14:05 - Jun 24 with 308 views | Darth_Koont |
| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 11:40 - Jun 24 by tractordownsouth |
I don’t think anyone is suggesting Blairism is the path to go down - I’m certainly not and neither is the current leadership or membership. Corbynism clearly isn’t the way to go either. There seems to be this idea from some that anything to the left of Blair is Corbynite and anything to the right of Corbyn is Blairite. The reality of the Uk’s political system is that it should be somewhere in the middle.
Iraq was certainly a disaster and has rightly tarnished Blair’s legacy but of course there were also successes in Kosovo. The behaviour of Corbyn in the aftermath of that - signing an early day motion casting doubt over the extent of the war crimes, after he’d voted against intervening to stop them -- was pretty disgraceful. To simply dismiss any intervention as “imperialism” is an extremely privileged position to take. There’s nothing moral about turning away when there’s a genocide going on. |
Tell me more about this “middle way” and unity-based approach. Like where the f@#@ it is?
I’ve only seen the opposite.
The good news is that the public thinks the current leadership and direction are rubbish too. | |
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| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 15:27 - Jun 24 with 272 views | Darth_Koont |
| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 11:17 - Jun 24 by CoachRob |
Have you heard about the New Liberals in Australia?
Could this sort of platform be the basis of a new progressive alliance?
Labour seems to have run out of road, I have no idea where they stand on climate change - the single most important issue (see forecasts and drought metrics for Western USA).
https://www.thenewliberals.net.au |
Labour are now run by the Labour right who really don’t stand for much at all. They’re not the Tories and they’re not the ”Loony Left” (who surprisingly always end up on the right side of history). Oh and they’re not the LibDems apparently but no-one knows why.
Some people might say they stand for ensuring real left-wing policies are killed at birth and they’re only interested in taking the power, influence and money of the left side of the Establishment. But it’s only all the available evidence that would suggest that.
The New Liberals sound interesting. They sound a bit like our LibDems going by their policies but in an Australia that’s possibly even further to the right than ours then that probably makes them the left flank. What is interesting is that they appear to be big on bringing real democracy and representation back – something that our own democracy is desperately short of.
And I liked this quote:
“Hope has two beautiful daughters; their names are Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are, and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are.”
– Augustine of Hippo
God knows we need more hope. But we could certainly do with a lot more anger and courage. | |
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| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 15:58 - Jun 24 with 247 views | tractordownsouth |
| This is spot on about Starmer and his so-called opposition on 14:05 - Jun 24 by Darth_Koont |
Tell me more about this “middle way” and unity-based approach. Like where the f@#@ it is?
I’ve only seen the opposite.
The good news is that the public thinks the current leadership and direction are rubbish too. |
There were quite a few SCG members in shadow cabinet or PPS roles but they chose to quit or got themselves sacked, same as the moderate MPs who resigned or were sacked under Corbyn. I don't think either side has a monopoly on unity.
Policies like the education recovery plan are good ones, but need to be communicated and presented more effectively. Likewise the stuff about cladding - it's been highlighted but needs to be focused on much more. I think the policies are right but I'd like to see the leadership choose a specific issue to champion.
https://labour.org.uk/press/labour-seizes-post-covid-education-agenda-with-bold- |  |
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