| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:32 - Feb 26 with 927 views | Guthrum |
Likely the same thing, the column would stop or attempt to drive around. Russian soldiers are not animals, plus a centrepiece of the narrative is that Russians and Ukrainians are brother peoples not bitter enemies. |  |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:37 - Feb 26 with 891 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:32 - Feb 26 by Guthrum |
Likely the same thing, the column would stop or attempt to drive around. Russian soldiers are not animals, plus a centrepiece of the narrative is that Russians and Ukrainians are brother peoples not bitter enemies. |
I agree, which is why large numbers would be needed and it would certainly slow any advances down. Passive resistance is often the most effective. |  |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:41 - Feb 26 with 859 views | Guthrum |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:37 - Feb 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I agree, which is why large numbers would be needed and it would certainly slow any advances down. Passive resistance is often the most effective. |
Many times in history advances (and retreats) have been held up by refugees on the road. France 1940 being a notable example. | |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:43 - Feb 26 with 845 views | Rob88 |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:37 - Feb 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I agree, which is why large numbers would be needed and it would certainly slow any advances down. Passive resistance is often the most effective. |
I hear what you are saying but I feel passive resistance towards Russia is why we are where we are today.
I think the sheer fact Putin is prepared to do what it is doing and using indiscriminate weapons whilst doing it tells you how much he values human life. |  | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:44 - Feb 26 with 822 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:32 - Feb 26 by Guthrum |
Likely the same thing, the column would stop or attempt to drive around. Russian soldiers are not animals, plus a centrepiece of the narrative is that Russians and Ukrainians are brother peoples not bitter enemies. |
Didn’t they only yesterday deliberately crush someone in a car with their armoured vehicle? | | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:45 - Feb 26 with 820 views | Ely_Blue |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:32 - Feb 26 by Guthrum |
Likely the same thing, the column would stop or attempt to drive around. Russian soldiers are not animals, plus a centrepiece of the narrative is that Russians and Ukrainians are brother peoples not bitter enemies. |
I take it that you’ve not seen the footage of the Russian (tank/app) vehicle flattening the civilian car in Ukraine then?
Edit….. to clarify the car was occupied at the time [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 9:46]
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:49 - Feb 26 with 792 views | Churchman |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:41 - Feb 26 by Guthrum |
Many times in history advances (and retreats) have been held up by refugees on the road. France 1940 being a notable example. |
Indeed they did. The Luftwaffe had a particular liking for shooting at refugees just to add to the chaos.
I suppose the classic image of delay I have is that brave Tiananmen Square man with his shopping bags standing in front of that line of tanks. |  | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:08 - Feb 26 with 725 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:43 - Feb 26 by Rob88 |
I hear what you are saying but I feel passive resistance towards Russia is why we are where we are today.
I think the sheer fact Putin is prepared to do what it is doing and using indiscriminate weapons whilst doing it tells you how much he values human life. |
There is a place for guerilla resistance and sabotage too. In a full out fire fight there will be only one winner. I think the military's relative restraint so far is because they know they have to win the war at home too. I suspect Putin will regret this venture before too long. | |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:11 - Feb 26 with 715 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:45 - Feb 26 by Ely_Blue |
I take it that you’ve not seen the footage of the Russian (tank/app) vehicle flattening the civilian car in Ukraine then?
Edit….. to clarify the car was occupied at the time [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 9:46]
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There is considerable doubt as to whether that was a deliberate act and who was involved. Have you not seen the linked video of a convoy repeatedly avoiding running a man down? | |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:14 - Feb 26 with 689 views | Rob88 |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:08 - Feb 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
There is a place for guerilla resistance and sabotage too. In a full out fire fight there will be only one winner. I think the military's relative restraint so far is because they know they have to win the war at home too. I suspect Putin will regret this venture before too long. |
I completely agree. I think guerrilla warfare in Ukraine and public resistance in Russia is the only way to win this war (without active NATO involvement).
Guerrilla resistance isn’t passive resistance. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 10:15]
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:22 - Feb 26 with 661 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:14 - Feb 26 by Rob88 |
I completely agree. I think guerrilla warfare in Ukraine and public resistance in Russia is the only way to win this war (without active NATO involvement).
Guerrilla resistance isn’t passive resistance. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 10:15]
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No it is not. Both are required. | |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:23 - Feb 26 with 662 views | strikalite |
Here's a question for you guys, put in very basic terms, firstly, if Ukraine have absolutely no chance here, and they obviously don't, then why not surrender at this point right now to avoid absolutely destroying their country and allow Putin to THINK that he's been successful.....then have him and his Generals for war crimes for what's happened up to now...? |  | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:26 - Feb 26 with 637 views | Rob88 |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:22 - Feb 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
No it is not. Both are required. |
I don’t understand your point. Both of what? | | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:30 - Feb 26 with 625 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:26 - Feb 26 by Rob88 |
I don’t understand your point. Both of what? |
Passive and guerilla (non passive.)
Edit...I think we are agreeing. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 10:32]
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:37 - Feb 26 with 605 views | Rob88 |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:30 - Feb 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Passive and guerilla (non passive.)
Edit...I think we are agreeing. [Post edited 26 Feb 2022 10:32]
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That’s what I thought. | | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 13:43 - Feb 26 with 487 views | Guthrum |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 09:44 - Feb 26 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Didn’t they only yesterday deliberately crush someone in a car with their armoured vehicle? |
That may not have been quite what happened. See this thread:
Ukrainian citizens are getting galvanised by acts of defiance and atrocity... by Guthrum 25 Feb 2022 16:58I'm slightly dubious for a different reason. Watching the video and looking back along the track-marks, I wonder if it's the case that the driver of the armoured vehicle has cornered badly, lost control, skidded and accidentally ploughed over the car.
Given the amount of traffic on the road (from that and other clips of the same incident), it seems odd that they singled out that car if done deliberately. Also, if there was some kind of initial skid or collision with street furniture, that might explain why a number of people started filming.
Of course, the armoured vehicle simply reversing back and driving off without checking on the car's occupant(s) is indefensible. Also, with a comment made by someone in Belarus a few days ago*, the military driver may have been drunk.
* 'They like drinking and selling their diesel'
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 13:48 - Feb 26 with 474 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 10:23 - Feb 26 by strikalite |
Here's a question for you guys, put in very basic terms, firstly, if Ukraine have absolutely no chance here, and they obviously don't, then why not surrender at this point right now to avoid absolutely destroying their country and allow Putin to THINK that he's been successful.....then have him and his Generals for war crimes for what's happened up to now...? |
Probably because there is nothing that would be prosecuted under that scenario. Even if Putin were to be responsible for war crimes (I am not sure he is yet in this conflict but maybe I am just uneducated on it), as Russian president he is not going to face trial. |  |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 14:07 - Feb 26 with 438 views | strikalite |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 13:48 - Feb 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Probably because there is nothing that would be prosecuted under that scenario. Even if Putin were to be responsible for war crimes (I am not sure he is yet in this conflict but maybe I am just uneducated on it), as Russian president he is not going to face trial. |
Yeah I'm too not sure what constitutes war crimes either to be honest, Crimea for example, Guthers help us here... | | | |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 14:09 - Feb 26 with 425 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 14:07 - Feb 26 by strikalite |
Yeah I'm too not sure what constitutes war crimes either to be honest, Crimea for example, Guthers help us here... |
So your example is one that he committed in a different conflict some years ago? Doesn't that prove the point that he would not be prosecuted? | |
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| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 14:18 - Feb 26 with 407 views | strikalite |
| I can't help but wonder what would happen if..... on 14:09 - Feb 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
So your example is one that he committed in a different conflict some years ago? Doesn't that prove the point that he would not be prosecuted? |
I don't know if there would be a difference between the two.. | | | |
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