| Eye opening quote on EV Cars 16:17 - Feb 21 with 3678 views | hype313 |
"Volkswagen (VW) calculates that a diesel car emits less CO2 than an EV for the first 70,000 miles it is driven. How can this be? Fabricating one EV battery entails mining about 250 tons of rock to secure the minerals needed. The energy used in the mining ecosystem–oil, coal, and natural gas–means that one EV has a carbon debt equal to emitting between eight and 20 tons of CO2 before its first mile driven. ... Realistic scenarios could lead to EVs emitting more total CO2 than conventional cars over their lifetime."
Obviously the caveat is that the emissions are not on our streets and in our lungs, they're centralised at power stations, manufacturing sites, etc. Much easier to clean up the mess there than trying to absorb it from our streets. EVs win, hands down on that front. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 16:18]
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| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:23 - Feb 22 with 439 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:14 - Feb 22 by DJR |
Seeing the dangerous driving of many with larger or not so larger cars, I was thinking recently that with AI we ought to limit all cars to 60mph, which would lessen carbon emissions and also make the roads safer. |
70 is surely fine on modern cars - otherwise where does it end. Maybe we’d be safer at 50 and less emissions than 60 and so on…
But to your point all cars post July 22 have speed limiters installed - no AI is required, it reads the speed signs. I have it in my car (albeit it can be turned off). |  | | |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:29 - Feb 22 with 404 views | DJR |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:23 - Feb 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
70 is surely fine on modern cars - otherwise where does it end. Maybe we’d be safer at 50 and less emissions than 60 and so on…
But to your point all cars post July 22 have speed limiters installed - no AI is required, it reads the speed signs. I have it in my car (albeit it can be turned off). |
Maybe my main concern is people cutting in far too close when overtaking, or not keeping their distance, which AI could solve.
It may be that people just have too powerful cars, but there are a hell of a lot of very bad drivers out there, something brought home to me in recent weeks with people up my tail, or cutting me up, in icy conditions. [Post edited 22 Feb 2023 18:30]
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| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:34 - Feb 22 with 389 views | ronnyd |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 21:04 - Feb 21 by Lord_Lucan |
I was about to press the button on a Tesla but wimped out, the whole EV thing to me isn’t adding up.
Our man Tarun is constantly looking for juice, sometimes he leaves work only to have to juice up nearby to get home.
Also - it takes me about 5 mins max to fill up on diesel - ditto most of the population. So, what’s gonna happen when everyone needs 30 minutes to boost? Gridlock?
I’m sure that someone will put me straight but I am starting to think the whole EV thing might be the biggest mistake in history. Get your lithium here!!!
Wind turbines - I think they look great, seriously. But, we know they aren’t the answer really but at least we’re having a bloody good bash at it. What,?? What do you mean each every single one requires 80 gallons of oil per year to keep turning.
Hey you - don’t dare point out problems baby.
Ha ha. Charade you are. |
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| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:34 - Feb 22 with 389 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:29 - Feb 22 by DJR |
Maybe my main concern is people cutting in far too close when overtaking, or not keeping their distance, which AI could solve.
It may be that people just have too powerful cars, but there are a hell of a lot of very bad drivers out there, something brought home to me in recent weeks with people up my tail, or cutting me up, in icy conditions. [Post edited 22 Feb 2023 18:30]
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“which AI could solve”
I’m not sure I’d be comfortable relinquishing control of my car to Harry10… | | | |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:40 - Feb 22 with 373 views | ronnyd |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:08 - Feb 22 by DJR |
I think places like Sainsbury's take used batteries. |
Would be a helluva job to get it in those plastic tubes.  | | | |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:54 - Feb 22 with 359 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Eye opening quote on EV Cars on 18:14 - Feb 22 by DJR |
Seeing the dangerous driving of many with larger or not so larger cars, I was thinking recently that with AI we ought to limit all cars to 60mph, which would lessen carbon emissions and also make the roads safer. |
We’ve 50s now on motorways in Wales for air pollution reasons. Not all, but increasingly common. There’s one leading up to Port Talbot, which always makes me chuckle as if you look at pollution maps the only obvious hotspot is a massive plume coming from the steel works. |  |
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