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This is pretty striking 06:48 - Jul 19 with 3779 viewsHerbivore

In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crash I vividly recall us being told that we were all in this together and that we would all share in the pain of austerity equally. It seems that those who ultimately had the most responsibility for the crash in 2008 are the only ones to have seen improvements in their real terms pay since. What a kick in the teeth that those who crashed the economy have been allowed to coin it since, whilst those who had to pick up the pieces are now significantly worse off than they were in 2008.


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This is pretty striking on 11:49 - Jul 19 with 776 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

This is pretty striking on 11:36 - Jul 19 by WeWereZombies

You can easily ignore the predictions that middle income Brits are going to be worse off than middle income Slovenians by next year, and middle income Poles by the end of the decade, then ?

[edit] Those predictions are from DJR's Financial Times link (for clarity.)
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The original report also noted that Poland is also set to overtake France, Spain and Italy over the same period. A major piece of context to omit.
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This is pretty striking on 11:55 - Jul 19 with 758 viewsHerbivore

This is pretty striking on 11:33 - Jul 19 by blueasfook

The usual stats massaging from the Grauniad designed to sucker in those who want to see the worst in every situation.

Congrats, they got you.


I was always under the impression trolls were meant to be witty, seems you're desperate to prove otherwise.

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This is pretty striking on 12:00 - Jul 19 with 747 viewsblueasfook

This is pretty striking on 11:55 - Jul 19 by Herbivore

I was always under the impression trolls were meant to be witty, seems you're desperate to prove otherwise.


Not trolling. The graph is a joke. For instance, it has "public sector" and "private sector" wages both falling. Public and Private sector covers errr... everyone.
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This is pretty striking on 12:04 - Jul 19 with 731 viewsHerbivore

This is pretty striking on 12:00 - Jul 19 by blueasfook

Not trolling. The graph is a joke. For instance, it has "public sector" and "private sector" wages both falling. Public and Private sector covers errr... everyone.
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Yeah, you're just proving my point again.

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This is pretty striking on 12:09 - Jul 19 with 698 viewsblueasfook

This is pretty striking on 12:04 - Jul 19 by Herbivore

Yeah, you're just proving my point again.


Ok, you just keep blindly believing in whatever nonsense the Guardian put up then.

Did you see the article about Brexit causes cancer?

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This is pretty striking on 12:15 - Jul 19 with 694 viewsHerbivore

This is pretty striking on 12:09 - Jul 19 by blueasfook

Ok, you just keep blindly believing in whatever nonsense the Guardian put up then.

Did you see the article about Brexit causes cancer?


It's an analysis of ONS data. That you're struggling with a graph containing both a private sector average and different individual sectors within the private sector is rather telling of your ability to assess information. As I said, just proving my initial point about your lack of wit, in all senses of the word.

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This is pretty striking on 12:17 - Jul 19 with 681 viewsWeWereZombies

This is pretty striking on 11:49 - Jul 19 by SuperKieranMcKenna

The original report also noted that Poland is also set to overtake France, Spain and Italy over the same period. A major piece of context to omit.


Ah, didn't realise that - and it maybe makes chico's point about exceptionalism relevant (in a Western European sense rather than just Englishness.) Still, there are structural advantages that five nations have enjoyed in the past that seem to be coming to an end (unless you are Norwegian) despite the power of the underlying economies. I think that both The Guardian and The Financial Times articles give good reason to doubt the effectiveness of the distribution of wealth in the United States and the United Kingdom, we can also consider the recent riots in France to bring in another aspect of polarised society. The difficulties of getting on in Italy without being in the know are pretty. ermm, well known and documented ('Gomorrah' for example) and it still amazes me that Spain has such high unemployment as well as seeing teachers, for example, reduced to leaflet delivering in an attempt to shore up their pay. The squeezed middle is no myth.

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This is pretty striking on 16:52 - Jul 19 with 612 viewsBlueBadger

This is pretty striking on 12:09 - Jul 19 by blueasfook

Ok, you just keep blindly believing in whatever nonsense the Guardian put up then.

Did you see the article about Brexit causes cancer?


If you're going to set yourself up as a devil-may-care banter lord, you should probably stop crying every time someone mocks you or points out you're talking sh1t.

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This is pretty striking on 20:48 - Jul 19 with 568 viewsibbleobble

This is an interesting article introducing the idea that a Time Poverty Strategy needs to be considered to lift poorer people out of a vicious circle they find themselves in by sinking so much ‘free’ time into unpaid work. A cycle that actually expends more effort than it provides reward or benefit.

https://fabians.org.uk/a-precious-resource/
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