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A really hard read 08:43 - Sep 14 with 3348 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Priti Patel and Suella Braverman have blood on their hands for the way they weaponised immigration:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66791416

And all the other Tory MPs who have used hate filled and inflammatory language, voted for budget cuts, privatised immigration services and deliberately turned the process of arrest and removal of immigrants into a failing, never-ending, clogged up nightmare.

So sad.

You can contact the Samaritans at any time of the day or night:

https://www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

Or call 116 123
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A really hard read on 20:01 - Sep 14 with 531 viewsHARRY10

A really hard read on 18:47 - Sep 14 by GlasgowBlue

Ironically, the Tories proposed a similar deal in the summer and the EU rejected it.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/20b18fbe-3ae7-11ee-81cd-1bf34cc855cb?shareTok

The Tories, The EU, Labour are all using desperate people as a political football.

Quite shameful all round imo.


More nonsense.

It is the Tories (certain sections) alone who are using these people as a political football - so stop spouting rightie guff. Opposition parties can only respond to what the government is doing. Much as with the EU. It is the UK that left the Dublin Accord.

I am sure you know this but your wish/need to defelect and defend your betters gets the better of yo. and over rides factual argument.. Whereas others are not bright enough, or too lazy to check and swallow this rubbish, ''they are all as bad as each another".

It was your lot that caused this mess, and them alone.
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A really hard read on 20:02 - Sep 14 with 529 viewsGlasgowBlue

A really hard read on 20:01 - Sep 14 by HARRY10

More nonsense.

It is the Tories (certain sections) alone who are using these people as a political football - so stop spouting rightie guff. Opposition parties can only respond to what the government is doing. Much as with the EU. It is the UK that left the Dublin Accord.

I am sure you know this but your wish/need to defelect and defend your betters gets the better of yo. and over rides factual argument.. Whereas others are not bright enough, or too lazy to check and swallow this rubbish, ''they are all as bad as each another".

It was your lot that caused this mess, and them alone.


Bog off you grotty little man.

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A really hard read on 17:17 - Sep 17 with 381 viewsDJR

A really hard read on 19:50 - Sep 14 by DJR

I think that is a bit harsh on what Starmer has proposed today.

According to Mujtaba Rahman-

"it is apparently Starmer’s intention to agree a “return policy” with the EU. Any unauthorsised migrants reaching Kent would be returned to France/the EU. This would discourage/destroy the small boats traffic. BUT the UK would in return accept an agreed number of migrants."

As Downing Street today ruled out ever accepting an asylum seeker quota sharing deal with the EU, this suggests that, to use Rahman's words, it thinks "it can get something for nothing" which may well explain why the government got nowhere in the summer.


Looks like I was being rather over-generous towards Starmer because (whether because of the backlash or not) it looks like they are not looking at a returns policy proper.

Pat McFadden, Labour's shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, used a separate TV interview this morning to stress the party's plan for a returns agreement with Brussels would not see 'an allocation of numbers'.

'We’re talking about individual cases where a child may have strong family links here,' he told the BBC's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg show.

'It’s not "we will take this many, you take that many". That’s not the kind of negotiation that we want to have,' he said.
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