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As I said, I don’t see any problem with that and the context of “peace, understanding and dialogue” which is the political route Corbyn is advocating.
How is it any different from someone who says they are a friend of Israel? In real terms that’s about supporting, arming and giving cover to an apartheid regime and its illegal occupation and racist oppression of millions. There’s almost no case that it’s about supporting peace, understanding and dialogue in the conflict given the massive power imbalance.
Shows the power of the accepted narrative that completely different standards are applied depending if you’re on the “right” side of the debate supporting power and the “wrong” side supporting the powerless.
“ And the idea that an organization that is dedicated towards the good of the Palestinian people and bringing about long term peace and social justice and political justice in the whole region should be labelled as a terrorist organization by the British Govermment is really a big, big historical mistake”
Do you think that Hamas are dedicated to the good of the Palestinian people?
Do you think Hamas are dedicated to bringing about long term peace and social justice in the whole region?
Do you think it is a mistake to label Hamas as a terrorist Organization?
“ And the idea that an organization that is dedicated towards the good of the Palestinian people and bringing about long term peace and social justice and political justice in the whole region should be labelled as a terrorist organization by the British Govermment is really a big, big historical mistake”
Do you think that Hamas are dedicated to the good of the Palestinian people?
Do you think Hamas are dedicated to bringing about long term peace and social justice in the whole region?
Do you think it is a mistake to label Hamas as a terrorist Organization?
No, not in pure terms. Just like I don’t think the Israel government is dedicated to the good of the Israeli people but its dangerous interpretation of that. Ditto their dedication to long-term peace and social justice in the region, ditto labelling them as a democracy with acceptable concern for human rights.
But that’s what we need to argue isn’t it? To bring two sides to the table where these goals can actually be worked towards rather than through guns and bombs. And to establish that peace, justice and the good of the people in the region is the common ground and the best way forward.
But here’s an article that spells out the double standard and self-interest at play here:
So you think he does condone their actions? Where’s the context/source for that?
I mean I wouldn’t call ISIS ‘friends’, they have similar goals and methods to Hamas. In isolation you could probably overlook it as a Freudian slip. But Corbyn’s history is just littered with comments that at best are a result of his complete f*^kwittery, and at worst deeply troubling.
I mean I wouldn’t call ISIS ‘friends’, they have similar goals and methods to Hamas. In isolation you could probably overlook it as a Freudian slip. But Corbyn’s history is just littered with comments that at best are a result of his complete f*^kwittery, and at worst deeply troubling.
Compared to the current ideologically suspect Jewish-only version that shows little to no care or concern for their people, culture and beliefs?
When you address the causes and underlying injustices, extremism and extreme enmity have nowhere to take root and flourish.
in terms of democracy you're comparing israel to iran and syria. i know you're a blinkered loon, but really do some research.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
If Israel granted the Palestinians territory in which they could govern themselves, would Hamas give up their stated intent to eradicate Israel from the map? Would Tehran stop stirring up the situation to cause as many issues to Jerusalem as possible? It didn't happen in the mid 2000s and is unlikely in present circumstances. If there were no more rockets out of Gaza, would the religious right in the USA withdraw their support for settlements?
There are too many people with an interest in not addressing the underlying injustices, in perpetuating the situation. People in positions of power and influence. That's what we're fighting against with a desire for humanity and moderation.
But there was no end to the occupation and oppression in the mid-2000s. That was also when the blockade in Gaza started.
The underlying causes and injustices you’re talking about were still there. With no real pressure on either side from their international supporters to address them. So why would anyone expect the rhetoric to be toned down, let alone the actual terrorism/armed resistance?
in terms of democracy you're comparing israel to iran and syria. i know you're a blinkered loon, but really do some research.
I’m not but you’re clearly scrabbling around for a point somewhere.
I can see why you and the other usual suspects keep pushing your disingenuous accusations and bad faith misrepresentations. You have literally nothing else.
I’m not but you’re clearly scrabbling around for a point somewhere.
I can see why you and the other usual suspects keep pushing your disingenuous accusations and bad faith misrepresentations. You have literally nothing else.
“You have literally nothing else”
What we have, unfortunately is a country where the NHS is being systematically destroyed, Brexit, crumbling schools, and inability to get a Dr’s appointment. Largely because a small number of people kept putting this utter tool with his sixth form world view in front of the electorate. All in the name of dogma.
I’ll leave it there since Phil has already been called into action today.
What we have, unfortunately is a country where the NHS is being systematically destroyed, Brexit, crumbling schools, and inability to get a Dr’s appointment. Largely because a small number of people kept putting this utter tool with his sixth form world view in front of the electorate. All in the name of dogma.
I’ll leave it there since Phil has already been called into action today.
QED
I follow you down your rabbithole of Corbyn being a terrorist sympathiser and it becomes more and more loopy the more you ignore the facts. Now we’re onto other stuff that is purely about domestic politics.
There’s an unwitting truthfulness to your disingenuousness and inability to play the ball not the man. It shows that it’s not about the facts but the politics.
I used to think you were better than the worst of the silly weaponisers on here, but sadly It seems I gave you too much credit.
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