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Plagiarism 11:20 - Oct 26 with 1952 viewsDJR

I think I now know why Labour's economic policies are so close to the Tories'!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/26/rachel-reeves-labour-denies-pla
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Plagiarism on 11:23 - Oct 26 with 1906 viewsNthQldITFC

I know now why the economic policies of Labour are so close to the Tories', I think.

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Plagiarism on 11:26 - Oct 26 with 1890 viewsWeWereZombies

In fairness, Wikipedia has been around for, what, twenty or twenty five years and the Gillian Anscombe story, for example, pre-dates Wikipedia by more than that. I would have thought it likely that there is a common source rather than a copy and paste.

Anyway, I now know why Labour's economic policies are so close to the Tories...

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Plagiarism on 11:34 - Oct 26 with 1858 viewsGlasgowBlue

I did wonder why the third chapter in Reeves book started with a personal appeal for donations from Jimmy Wales.

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Plagiarism on 11:38 - Oct 26 with 1827 viewsDJR

Plagiarism on 11:26 - Oct 26 by WeWereZombies

In fairness, Wikipedia has been around for, what, twenty or twenty five years and the Gillian Anscombe story, for example, pre-dates Wikipedia by more than that. I would have thought it likely that there is a common source rather than a copy and paste.

Anyway, I now know why Labour's economic policies are so close to the Tories...


My OP was mainly in jest, but I am not sure it is a good look for an author, and I imagine the fact that it is the FT that has picked this up will hurt.

And it's interesting that the book wasn't subjected by the FT to the sort of plagiarism check that my daughter's university essays underwent on submission, which would presumably have picked up more.

Maybe though Reeves was taking her cue from Melania Trump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36832095

But I don't suppose the story will get any further than the inside sections of the broadsheets.
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Plagiarism on 12:11 - Oct 26 with 1762 viewsNthQldITFC

Plagiarism on 11:38 - Oct 26 by DJR

My OP was mainly in jest, but I am not sure it is a good look for an author, and I imagine the fact that it is the FT that has picked this up will hurt.

And it's interesting that the book wasn't subjected by the FT to the sort of plagiarism check that my daughter's university essays underwent on submission, which would presumably have picked up more.

Maybe though Reeves was taking her cue from Melania Trump.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-36832095

But I don't suppose the story will get any further than the inside sections of the broadsheets.
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It's a bit embarrassing isn't it. Charitably, I know I've dropped other people's stuff into drafts I've written before as placeholders for further specific research, which may be the case here and she's forgotten that it wasn't original work? But that's a weak excuse.

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Plagiarism on 12:28 - Oct 26 with 1726 viewsWeWereZombies

Plagiarism on 12:11 - Oct 26 by NthQldITFC

It's a bit embarrassing isn't it. Charitably, I know I've dropped other people's stuff into drafts I've written before as placeholders for further specific research, which may be the case here and she's forgotten that it wasn't original work? But that's a weak excuse.


Perhaps, but I think I can make a point here that no one else has picked up and that is I think I now know why Labour's economic policies are so close to the Tories...

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Plagiarism on 12:37 - Oct 26 with 1703 viewsDarth_Koont

Plagiarism on 12:11 - Oct 26 by NthQldITFC

It's a bit embarrassing isn't it. Charitably, I know I've dropped other people's stuff into drafts I've written before as placeholders for further specific research, which may be the case here and she's forgotten that it wasn't original work? But that's a weak excuse.


You don’t deliberately but lazily change a few words though. Pretty clear this was the approach all along.

But very heartening to see such a commitment to recycling!

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Plagiarism on 12:45 - Oct 26 with 1687 viewsDJR

Plagiarism on 12:37 - Oct 26 by Darth_Koont

You don’t deliberately but lazily change a few words though. Pretty clear this was the approach all along.

But very heartening to see such a commitment to recycling!


Maybe it's because they are called Basic Books, but it is odd that they didn't, as a safeguard, run plagiarism software that would have picked up unreferenced passages, although primary responsibility for referencing lies with the author.

Having said that, Basic Books gave up publishing serious academic books in 1997, so maybe less stringent standards apply to the sort of stuff they now produce.
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Plagiarism on 12:49 - Oct 26 with 1670 viewsNthQldITFC

Plagiarism on 12:28 - Oct 26 by WeWereZombies

Perhaps, but I think I can make a point here that no one else has picked up and that is I think I now know why Labour's economic policies are so close to the Tories...


...because the Tories get their economic policies from Wikipedia in the first place?

I thought they got them from the Mr Men books until you pointed that out.

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Plagiarism on 12:58 - Oct 26 with 1646 viewsDJR

As an aside, Biden's presidential bid in 1988 was apparently torpedoed by failing to acknowledge Neil Kinnock of all people.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/07/neil-kinnock-joe-biden-1987-scan
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Plagiarism on 13:02 - Oct 26 with 1629 viewsDJR

On a different tangent and bearing in mind things like essay factories and ChatGPT, written exams (which I sat at university) offer no real scope for plagiarism or cheating.
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Plagiarism on 13:18 - Oct 26 with 1582 viewsWeWereZombies

Plagiarism on 13:02 - Oct 26 by DJR

On a different tangent and bearing in mind things like essay factories and ChatGPT, written exams (which I sat at university) offer no real scope for plagiarism or cheating.


Providing that sufficient checks are carried out to make sure that those sitting the exams are the named students and not competent ringers brought in to sit the exams in their place.

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Plagiarism on 13:21 - Oct 26 with 1568 viewsDJR

Plagiarism on 13:18 - Oct 26 by WeWereZombies

Providing that sufficient checks are carried out to make sure that those sitting the exams are the named students and not competent ringers brought in to sit the exams in their place.


Good point!

What an innocent world it was way back then.
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Plagiarism on 13:18 - Nov 3 with 1072 viewsDJR

It looks like Reeves' plagiarism, when it comes to economic policies, has won over Ken Clarke.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-big-beast-ken-clarke-praises-rachel-r
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