| Labour even leading... 21:59 - Jun 12 with 4628 views | baxterbasics |
among *Daily Mail* readers.
Make of that what you will
(Yes I know - Reform split partially responsible here, but still...) |  |
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| Labour even leading... on 13:15 - Jun 13 with 747 views | baxterbasics |
| Labour even leading... on 10:01 - Jun 13 by Guthrum |
Indeed. I think voters tend to give credit for that, too. Quite apart from the government reminding us repeatedly of the fact as their first election looms - and sometimes far beyond.
The thing about 2019 being that it wasn't the first election of the Conservative tenure. They'd already been in power since 2015 (2010 if you include the Coalition, which they dominated). Also, there was the specific issue of Brexit and the deadlock it caused in Parliament. A factor which was ignored by many commentators, then and since. That, far more than the inherent virtues of Boris Johnson or the Conservative Party, guided the outcome. Plus they have had two leadership changes since, one of which was a humiliating disaster lasting only a matter of weeks - it's broken the continuity of that landslide. |
I don't think there's ever been such a rapid implosion by a party with such a majority like Boris had. Covid and then Ukraines effect on the economy turned everything on it's head (more than Brexit, I think). | |
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| Labour even leading... on 13:32 - Jun 13 with 711 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Labour even leading... on 09:46 - Jun 13 by Lord_Lucan |
One of the problems we have IMHO is that it usually takes one term to clear up the mess that the last lot left behind and for that reason there is an argument for increasing the length of a term, the problem though quite obviously is that it could seriously backfire.
I would imagine they will get two terms but who knows, I clearly remember after the Boris landslide that people were writing Labour off for at least two terms. |
And that’s assuming Starmer lasts a full term (he should do, for the reasons mentioned above about him purging the lefties). When was the last time we had a PM survive a normal length term and not either crap the bed or get booted from the leader position? Cameron in the coalition? |  |
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| Labour even leading... on 13:42 - Jun 13 with 677 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Labour even leading... on 13:15 - Jun 13 by baxterbasics |
I don't think there's ever been such a rapid implosion by a party with such a majority like Boris had. Covid and then Ukraines effect on the economy turned everything on it's head (more than Brexit, I think). |
I’m not so sure about Ukraine. The energy providers largely used that as an excuse to raise prices and pull in record profits. If anything, Ukraine would have boosted Johnson’s popularity. Partying while our relatives died was what got him. | |
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| Labour even leading... on 13:48 - Jun 13 with 661 views | baxterbasics |
| Labour even leading... on 13:42 - Jun 13 by Swansea_Blue |
I’m not so sure about Ukraine. The energy providers largely used that as an excuse to raise prices and pull in record profits. If anything, Ukraine would have boosted Johnson’s popularity. Partying while our relatives died was what got him. |
Maybe there was in initial bump for him personally. But it wasn't just energy, food prices taking a hit too. As usual Clinton gets proved right, whatever else goes on what do the public care about most? "It's the economy, stupid" - inflation is a government killer. | |
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| Labour even leading... on 15:08 - Jun 13 with 610 views | Dubtractor |
| Labour even leading... on 13:48 - Jun 13 by baxterbasics |
Maybe there was in initial bump for him personally. But it wasn't just energy, food prices taking a hit too. As usual Clinton gets proved right, whatever else goes on what do the public care about most? "It's the economy, stupid" - inflation is a government killer. |
I think it's also the utterly broken state of services that we all use too.
Anyone who drives knows the roads are fooked everywhere. Anyone who has needed to use the NHS will know that it is broken.
It's easy for a government to spin away issues that don't impact on most people, but we all see the damage that has been done. Sunak trying to claim things are getting better is just laughable to almost everyone, as we can all see it isn't. |  |
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| Labour even leading... on 15:27 - Jun 13 with 591 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Labour even leading... on 13:42 - Jun 13 by Swansea_Blue |
I’m not so sure about Ukraine. The energy providers largely used that as an excuse to raise prices and pull in record profits. If anything, Ukraine would have boosted Johnson’s popularity. Partying while our relatives died was what got him. |
That’s not really how it works though, the commodity prices are driven by supply and demand (hence many Energy firms lost money during the peak of COVID as demand slumped). After the Russian invasion, we lost one of the worlds biggest gas exporters, driving up wholesale prices. The E&P companies were benefactors of that but they didn’t ’raise prices’. That’s why the nationalisation of energy utilities proposed by Corbyn was actually very bad value at an estimated £200bn (you’d save around 2pc on your bill). A nationalised utility wouldn’t protect against price shocks since they’d still buy the gas on the open market. They could absorb the cost increase on behalf of the consumer but the taxpayer would still pick up the cost. EDF post nationalisation lost EUR18bn in it’s first year.
The actual utility companies who provide electricity have fairly small margins which is why many went under. That they were not taxed properly with repeated windfall taxes is the major scandal, and at a guess the Tories recieve substantial donations. |  | | |
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