| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error 21:42 - Aug 26 with 7518 views | N2_Blue |
In march of this year I was caught by a speed camera on the M25 exceeding the speed limit by 10 mph.
I received the NIP and accepted the Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, paid the £100 fine online using the government portal and posted my license details using the form provided - all with the 28 day time limit.
Last Friday I received a SJP. Why have i received this? Looking online iwould suggest that maybe the police think i have not made payment or received my license details.
However I have record of my pyament and also the police have to have recieved my details as they have included a scan of the form i returned with my license details and admitting i was the driver.
I'm totally at a loss as to why i have received this and yet now either have to face a court appreance (ive never attended Court in my life) or admit guilt and pay a fine that could be large as it is accessed against your finanical situation. However i have alrready admitted to the offence and paid the fine.
Any advice? (And yes i know speeding is not big or clever, but we all make mistakes sometimes). |  |
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| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 12:51 - Sep 3 with 775 views | N2_Blue |
| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 10:07 - Aug 27 by itfcjoe |
I think you may have done the same as I did then - because I sent all the details of, and then was issued with the fine which i paid online.
Apparently, when you make the payment online it tells you that you need to send your physical licence to the DVLA to get your points. I didn't see this, so didn't do it - and the first I knew about it was when I received the court papers and the fine was refunded back to me.
I could write a long essay about the process, and the literal thousands of pounds wasted, but ultimately you have to send your physical licence away to get the points* and by not doing so you are deemed to not accept the 'conditional offer' of 3 points and £100 fine.
Why they don't chase this, or send a reminder e-mail or letter is anyone's guess.
*After my court hearing, where I was awarded my 3 points - I didn't have to send my licence away to get the points.....so square that circle! |
This was exactly the same thing and has now been resolved. Thought i'd update in case happens to anyone else.
Like happened to Joe it was because I hadn't returned my license number when paying the fine despite giving it when declaring I was the driver and the police having it as they sent me a scan of the section 172 I had completed with my license number!
I pleaded guility to the SJP but claimed mitigation and that i hoped this could be settled without attending Court but that I would if it was deemed necessary.
Today I received a letter in the post staing that on 29th August a magistrate considered the case.
Basically it stipulates 3 points to be added to my lincese, fine of £72 and victim surcharge of £28. Total cost £100 exactly the same as the fine I paid 5 months ago. That fine has just two days ago been refunded to the card i paid it on.
What a complete and utter wate of time, paperwork and costs. So glad i didn't agree to attend Court as i was fretting as to whether it was going to count against me but was quite clearly it was not necessary.
I wonder how many times this happens considering it has happened to me and Joe. Surely they need to look at this as it's just nonsense. The refunding of the fine and then the request to just have to pay the exact same amount almost on the same day is laughable.
Thanks Joe and others for your input as without it i wouldn't have resolved this so easily. | |
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| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 14:24 - Sep 3 with 678 views | Father_Jack |
| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 11:50 - Aug 27 by N2_Blue |
Cheers fella.
And advice to anyone that may happen to get a speeding conviction and settle a Fixed conditional offer.
- Make sure you send your license details (twice - at time of accepting conditional offer AND when paying the fine.
- Then double check the points are applied to the license!
I've just checked online and see points haven't been recorded for the offence so adminstratively something has gone amiss. |
I'm in a similar position - got the Notice (£100 fine + 3 points), paid online and returned a form with my licence details. Haven't heard anything else but in light of this chain have just checked my licence and no points have been added. Offence was in Wales.
I definitely got no instructions to send my licence anywhere but am worried now! |  |
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| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 14:43 - Sep 3 with 665 views | textbackup |
If you did everything as you should have, and have proof, you’ll be absolutely fine (I would have thought)
As others have said, got to be an admin error |  |
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| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 15:11 - Sep 3 with 621 views | itfcjoe |
| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 12:51 - Sep 3 by N2_Blue |
This was exactly the same thing and has now been resolved. Thought i'd update in case happens to anyone else.
Like happened to Joe it was because I hadn't returned my license number when paying the fine despite giving it when declaring I was the driver and the police having it as they sent me a scan of the section 172 I had completed with my license number!
I pleaded guility to the SJP but claimed mitigation and that i hoped this could be settled without attending Court but that I would if it was deemed necessary.
Today I received a letter in the post staing that on 29th August a magistrate considered the case.
Basically it stipulates 3 points to be added to my lincese, fine of £72 and victim surcharge of £28. Total cost £100 exactly the same as the fine I paid 5 months ago. That fine has just two days ago been refunded to the card i paid it on.
What a complete and utter wate of time, paperwork and costs. So glad i didn't agree to attend Court as i was fretting as to whether it was going to count against me but was quite clearly it was not necessary.
I wonder how many times this happens considering it has happened to me and Joe. Surely they need to look at this as it's just nonsense. The refunding of the fine and then the request to just have to pay the exact same amount almost on the same day is laughable.
Thanks Joe and others for your input as without it i wouldn't have resolved this so easily. |
I did write to my MP about it, and there was a Bill that was stuck in the committee stage when the 2017 election was called.
I'll write to my new MP and see if it is something that can be revisited
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/1869 |  |
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| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 17:33 - Sep 3 with 518 views | N2_Blue |
| Advice needed regarding a Single Justice Procedure that i believe is an error on 14:24 - Sep 3 by Father_Jack |
I'm in a similar position - got the Notice (£100 fine + 3 points), paid online and returned a form with my licence details. Haven't heard anything else but in light of this chain have just checked my licence and no points have been added. Offence was in Wales.
I definitely got no instructions to send my licence anywhere but am worried now! |
I really would contact the police that gave you the penalty offenc as i think you'll end up with a SJP after 6 months.
If you are fined and awarded points but the points arent added to your license you are deemed as not having not accepted the condiotnal offer of points being added even if you have paid the fine! | |
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