| Boxing is weird. 10:51 - Sep 21 with 4531 views | Trequartista |
I mean putting aside the fact it's just violence with an element of skill that probably belongs in an era centuries ago (I still watch it now and again mind), I've just noticed that the UK has a heavyweight champion of the world called Daniel Dubois and nobody outside boxing has ever heard of him.
It's like Aston Villa winning the Premier League but no-one actually noticed because Man City played Liverpool five times and everyone paid three times to watch them instead. [Post edited 21 Sep 2024 10:51]
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| Boxing is weird. on 16:39 - Sep 23 with 621 views | buoyant |
| Boxing is weird. on 16:36 - Sep 23 by Leaky |
The point Iam making, that coming from a so called under privaleged you have make more of an effort to be succsseful in your chosen proffesion |
You were calling the "take" strange from Zx, which it isn't. Don't doubt your view on effort but it's subjective.
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| Boxing is weird. on 21:40 - Sep 23 with 541 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boxing is weird. on 21:43 - Sep 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
The purpose is not to cause a concussion per se - it’s to win, be that on points, stoppage due to cuts, KO, TKO, throwing in the towel etc. Arguably MMA and kickboxing present a lower risk of concussion, as there is less focus on head strikes.
But nobody needs to justify- hence why I said it’s illiberal that others say it should be banned. People consent to participate, it’s not for others to say. Otherwise maybe we should ban anything dangerous or harmful - skydiving, basejumping, mountain climbing, smoking, drinking, driving, etc etc. |
That's a far more reasonable defence than any given so far on this thread.
However, I do think that (especially where the potential rewards are so great) there is a responsibility for the authorities to consider athlete safety. To go completely down the route you are advocating, why do we ban performance-enhancing drugs in sport? If an athlete wants to take the substances in the full knowledge they will have a severely adverse effect on their health and life-expectancy, why should the authorities stop them? Let the bravest with the best scientific labs behind them win!
I am uncomfortable with it at best. [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 21:41]
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| Boxing is weird. on 22:41 - Sep 23 with 483 views | WicklowBlue |
| Boxing is weird. on 21:43 - Sep 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
The purpose is not to cause a concussion per se - it’s to win, be that on points, stoppage due to cuts, KO, TKO, throwing in the towel etc. Arguably MMA and kickboxing present a lower risk of concussion, as there is less focus on head strikes.
But nobody needs to justify- hence why I said it’s illiberal that others say it should be banned. People consent to participate, it’s not for others to say. Otherwise maybe we should ban anything dangerous or harmful - skydiving, basejumping, mountain climbing, smoking, drinking, driving, etc etc. |
I'd take the opposite view that MMA is way more dangerous than Boxing. Both are combative sports, but MMA is brutal once your opponent is on the canvas you can lay into them until the Ref or the opponent is a)taps out or is b) incapacitated and pummeled to submission. |  | | |
| Boxing is weird. on 07:56 - Sep 24 with 389 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Boxing is weird. on 21:40 - Sep 23 by Nthsuffolkblue |
That's a far more reasonable defence than any given so far on this thread.
However, I do think that (especially where the potential rewards are so great) there is a responsibility for the authorities to consider athlete safety. To go completely down the route you are advocating, why do we ban performance-enhancing drugs in sport? If an athlete wants to take the substances in the full knowledge they will have a severely adverse effect on their health and life-expectancy, why should the authorities stop them? Let the bravest with the best scientific labs behind them win!
I am uncomfortable with it at best. [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 21:41]
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Agreed - I’m very pro PED testing, that’s why the Olympic debate became a farce because they didn’t have as strict a testing regime as the pro sport. Fighters should be protected to the greatest degree possible, and PED testing is a big part of that.
It’s also fine to be uncomfortable with it - that’s very different to a puritanical standpoint of banning a regulated sport they don’t like, that they aren’t involved with. That’s dystopian stuff. |  | | |
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