| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 21:48 - Mar 28 with 3478 views | bluelagos |
Headline - 3 upheld, 3 rejected.
Complaint 1 - rejected
I complained about the conduct of a mounted officer outside the stadium for the way he used his horse outside the ground
The IOPC couldn't determine with 100% accuracy the rider, narrowing it down to 2 likely officers from Merseyside. I think they got the wrong guy as I saw same officer 10 months later at a poll tax demo in Sheffield. That said they rejected my complaint irrespective of the rider stating the use of horses they witnessed on video was within the rules in 89.
Complaint 2. - rejected
That PC Smith on the gate onto the pitch was slow to act despite pleas from dying fans.
This one is quite bizarre - they said my complaint was one of many similar, that collectively the complaints were passed to the CPS for consideration of prosecution (which meant collectively they felt enough evidence a crime had likely taken place) - then after the CPS determined not enough evidence for a criminal prosecution, the IOPC rejected my complaint due to insufficient evidence.
(Nope - me neither)
Complaint 3 - upheld
Conduct of WMP officer who interviewed me.
Basically they agreed his conduct was below the standards expected
Complaint 4 - upheld
My evidence was distorted and used to discredit fans.
Complaint 5 - rejected
WMP failed to act on complaints (by God father) in 89 about my interview.
By responding to GF - they did act and he didn't request further investigation
*That was when they lied that in 4000 interviews mine was the only complaint.
Complaint 6 - upheld
That in 89 the WMP failed to investigate my complaint about the mounted officer.
As it happens, I probably got away lightly as they sent Stanley Beechy to re-interview me - google him - (he's the guy who stitched up the Birmingham 6) - but he couldn't find me as he hadn't mastered how to use a phone book
So all in - I got the 2 I was keenest to get (about WMP interview) and the other one against the WMP not following up on 89 complaint.
The 2 against the SYP - both rejected - can see the mounted officer one (as whilst he was a knob - he was trying to regain order) - the one against Smith - the ruling is bizarre - bit of a "he was following orders" tone in their communication to me.
I've tweeted a fair bit today - so anyone can see various bits for themselves - pm if you want my twitter handle.
Not going to bother appealing anything - given the IOPC have said no action can take place anyway, Might have done if WMP guy had gotten off without criticism - but he was shown up for who he was.
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| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 14:53 - Mar 31 with 380 views | Ryorry |
Thank you Lagos for your dedication & colossal work over all these decades, one hell of an achievement 👏🏻
Was looking for how the police horse that you mentioned was wrongly used by the mounted officer, but couldn't find that. I did however come across this 8 year old Guardian article that I thought was excellent, though graphic, in conveying something of the situation. Will remove if anyone finds the close-up cover photo too upsetting.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/26/hillsborough-disaster-deadly-mi |  |
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| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:06 - Mar 31 with 306 views | Whos_blue |
| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 14:53 - Mar 31 by Ryorry |
Thank you Lagos for your dedication & colossal work over all these decades, one hell of an achievement 👏🏻
Was looking for how the police horse that you mentioned was wrongly used by the mounted officer, but couldn't find that. I did however come across this 8 year old Guardian article that I thought was excellent, though graphic, in conveying something of the situation. Will remove if anyone finds the close-up cover photo too upsetting.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/26/hillsborough-disaster-deadly-mi |
That's a tough, tough read but essential we refamiliarise ourselves with not only the horror but the disgusting cover and bare faced lies. |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:53 - Mar 31 with 284 views | bluelagos |
| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:06 - Mar 31 by Whos_blue |
That's a tough, tough read but essential we refamiliarise ourselves with not only the horror but the disgusting cover and bare faced lies. |
"Weatherby concentrated on just a few of the 164 statements, showing that all references to the “Freeman tactic” (closing the tunnel to the central pens) were deleted."
That's the key phrase for anyone who doubts the co-ordination that went into their cover up. The Police removed all references of the Freeman tactic from the police evidence that went to the Taylor inquiry.
Absolutely central to the understanding of how people came to die, the police deliberately mislead a public inquiry by omitting that key element.
And no one was ever convicted, because a public official misleading or lying at a public inquiry remains perfectly legal today. | |
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| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:56 - Mar 31 with 281 views | bluelagos |
| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:53 - Mar 31 by bluelagos |
"Weatherby concentrated on just a few of the 164 statements, showing that all references to the “Freeman tactic” (closing the tunnel to the central pens) were deleted."
That's the key phrase for anyone who doubts the co-ordination that went into their cover up. The Police removed all references of the Freeman tactic from the police evidence that went to the Taylor inquiry.
Absolutely central to the understanding of how people came to die, the police deliberately mislead a public inquiry by omitting that key element.
And no one was ever convicted, because a public official misleading or lying at a public inquiry remains perfectly legal today. |
And it was Norman Bettison who wrote those sections of the Wain report, who went onto become a Chief inspector and is now officially "Sir" Norman Bettison, rewarded by the state for his fine work in policing.
I don't use the "Sir" - it debases the title for all others who use it. | |
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| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 00:46 - Apr 1 with 246 views | Ryorry |
| So today the IOPC have ruled on my 6 complaints made in 2014 on 19:06 - Mar 31 by Whos_blue |
That's a tough, tough read but essential we refamiliarise ourselves with not only the horror but the disgusting cover and bare faced lies. |
Important not just for exposing this particular cover up, but also for laying bare just how corrupt UK police forces generally were/are capable of being (as the linked Guardian article expands on further re SYP & the miners' strike).
Encouraging the general public to think for themselves & challenge UK police versions of events instead of just accepting them uncritically, is again a great legacy for the future from Lagos and the others who persevered in getting the truth out into the light. | |
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