| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? 17:31 - Apr 3 with 942 views | DJR |
This is a tragic consequence of Trump, and something that has been rather overshadowed by tariffs.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/apr/03/millions-afghans-left
Sadly, with the UK cutting aid, I rather doubt it will be able to step up to the plate, and many programmes funded by the UK in the World will also be forced to shut. [Post edited 3 Apr 17:35]
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| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 17:53 - Apr 3 with 843 views | Radlett_blue |
The real problem with Afghanistan was George W Bush's ill-conceived "War on Terror" , The USA overthrew the Taliban in 2001, replacing it with a flimsy democracy. The war killed 200,000 people & eventually the Yanks realised that long term occupation of Afghanistan was an expensive mistake so now we have the Taliban back, with much Western hand-wringing. |  |
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| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 18:10 - Apr 3 with 808 views | DJR |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 17:53 - Apr 3 by Radlett_blue |
The real problem with Afghanistan was George W Bush's ill-conceived "War on Terror" , The USA overthrew the Taliban in 2001, replacing it with a flimsy democracy. The war killed 200,000 people & eventually the Yanks realised that long term occupation of Afghanistan was an expensive mistake so now we have the Taliban back, with much Western hand-wringing. |
And the UK supported the US like lemmings.
As the Who sang "We won't get fooled again". | | | |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:01 - Apr 4 with 637 views | Radlett_blue |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 18:10 - Apr 3 by DJR |
And the UK supported the US like lemmings.
As the Who sang "We won't get fooled again". |
Yes, the worst facet of the "special relationship" is that Britain seems obliged to support the US in their invariably ill-advised overseas incursions. | |
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| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:03 - Apr 4 with 635 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:01 - Apr 4 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, the worst facet of the "special relationship" is that Britain seems obliged to support the US in their invariably ill-advised overseas incursions. |
It was NATO article 5. |  | | |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:39 - Apr 4 with 572 views | DJR |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:03 - Apr 4 by redrickstuhaart |
It was NATO article 5. |
Article 5 might have been invoked (bizarrely in my view given the purpose of NATO) but the action in Afghanistan did not take place under the auspices of the resolutions.
This from Wikipedia.
"Two small military operations were ultimately authorized under the terms of the resolutions: Operation Eagle Assist, consisting of the deployment of several aircraft to North America; and, Operation Active Endeavour, a mostly symbolic naval deployment in the Mediterranean Sea. The United States, which was skeptical of NATO capabilities, elected not to seek further Article 5 support and the alliance did not participate in the ensuing American invasion of Afghanistan, though some individual members did make contributions outside of the NATO command structure."
Britain was one of those members. Hence my reference to lemmings. Or should I have said poodles? [Post edited 4 Apr 8:44]
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| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 15:21 - Apr 4 with 426 views | Churchman |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 08:39 - Apr 4 by DJR |
Article 5 might have been invoked (bizarrely in my view given the purpose of NATO) but the action in Afghanistan did not take place under the auspices of the resolutions.
This from Wikipedia.
"Two small military operations were ultimately authorized under the terms of the resolutions: Operation Eagle Assist, consisting of the deployment of several aircraft to North America; and, Operation Active Endeavour, a mostly symbolic naval deployment in the Mediterranean Sea. The United States, which was skeptical of NATO capabilities, elected not to seek further Article 5 support and the alliance did not participate in the ensuing American invasion of Afghanistan, though some individual members did make contributions outside of the NATO command structure."
Britain was one of those members. Hence my reference to lemmings. Or should I have said poodles? [Post edited 4 Apr 8:44]
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Attached is a summary of U.K. involvement in Afghanistan
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/war-afghanistan
It cost 454 lives and 2000 wounded plus untold numbers of people affected. For the rest of their lives. |  | | |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 15:28 - Apr 4 with 397 views | DJR |
| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 15:21 - Apr 4 by Churchman |
Attached is a summary of U.K. involvement in Afghanistan
https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/war-afghanistan
It cost 454 lives and 2000 wounded plus untold numbers of people affected. For the rest of their lives. |
Yes, that was shocking and very sad, but in the end the whole venture achieved nothing, apart from contempt from the current US administration for those NATO members and soldiers which took part. [Post edited 4 Apr 15:29]
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| Western involvement in Afghanistan. What was that all about? on 15:33 - Apr 4 with 370 views | ElderGrizzly |
We (as in the UK) left hundreds of Afghans to potentially die following the troop withdrawal who had been promised evacuation.
Interpreters, teachers, academics etc. Some who were working directly with the FCDO, British Council etc |  | | |
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