| Did you know 10:28 - May 4 with 524 views | chicoazul |
That 10% of career criminals commit 50% of all crimes?
So shouldn’t it be pretty easy to halve crime by jailing these people? |  |
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| Did you know on 10:38 - May 4 with 464 views | Guthrum |
Or you create a vacuum in which the next cohort of career criminals take over. Particularly so in the area of drug trafficking and selling, where the demand has not gone away. |  |
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| Did you know on 10:42 - May 4 with 443 views | BarcaBlue |
Like in the USA where about 1 in every 100 inhabitant is in jail? There they execute some of the worst ones too but weirdly people still commit crimes and kill people. |  | | |
| Did you know on 10:42 - May 4 with 438 views | chicoazul |
| Did you know on 10:38 - May 4 by Guthrum |
Or you create a vacuum in which the next cohort of career criminals take over. Particularly so in the area of drug trafficking and selling, where the demand has not gone away. |
So we should leave these criminals in place? At least we know who they are I suppose. | |
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| Did you know on 10:43 - May 4 with 433 views | chicoazul |
| Did you know on 10:42 - May 4 by BarcaBlue |
Like in the USA where about 1 in every 100 inhabitant is in jail? There they execute some of the worst ones too but weirdly people still commit crimes and kill people. |
That doesn’t seem weird to me. | |
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| Did you know on 10:53 - May 4 with 401 views | PrrrromotionGiven |
There isn't some limited pool of criminals and once they're all locked up there will be zero crime forever after. At least, if there was such a pool, almost everyone would be in it.
Crime is a cocktail of social inequality, warped incentive structures, peer pressure, ideology, and yes, some genuine thickos who commit crimes thoughtlessly. As Guthrum said in many cases we should be looking at the structure which incentivised the crime rather than the sole figure who happened to be in the right place at the right time to commit it. |  | | |
| Did you know on 10:56 - May 4 with 382 views | chicoazul |
| Did you know on 10:53 - May 4 by PrrrromotionGiven |
There isn't some limited pool of criminals and once they're all locked up there will be zero crime forever after. At least, if there was such a pool, almost everyone would be in it.
Crime is a cocktail of social inequality, warped incentive structures, peer pressure, ideology, and yes, some genuine thickos who commit crimes thoughtlessly. As Guthrum said in many cases we should be looking at the structure which incentivised the crime rather than the sole figure who happened to be in the right place at the right time to commit it. |
Given that we know beyond doubt my original statistic, why are career criminals repeatedly free to commit crimes? I’m interested in peoples answers to this specific point rather than the vagaries of why crimes what even are crimes is it poverty smash the carceral state etc | |
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| Did you know on 12:14 - May 4 with 285 views | MattinLondon |
| Did you know on 10:56 - May 4 by chicoazul |
Given that we know beyond doubt my original statistic, why are career criminals repeatedly free to commit crimes? I’m interested in peoples answers to this specific point rather than the vagaries of why crimes what even are crimes is it poverty smash the carceral state etc |
Criminals aren’t free to commit more crime - they do their time and upon release, society hopes that they don’t commit further crime.
You can’t keep people in jail forever (well you can depending on the crime) as there isn’t enough jail space. |  | | |
| Did you know on 13:41 - May 4 with 204 views | Guthrum |
| Did you know on 10:42 - May 4 by chicoazul |
So we should leave these criminals in place? At least we know who they are I suppose. |
Are you suggesting locking people up for something they haven't done yet, but somebody thinks they might? Or simply like the US three strikes system in which there is no hope of redemption or rehabilitation beyond a certain threshold, however much time passes or evidence of character change exists? | |
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| Did you know on 13:52 - May 4 with 186 views | Blueschev |
Legalise, regulate and tax all drugs. There would be a huge reduction in both organised crime and drug related deaths. |  | | |
| Did you know on 14:05 - May 4 with 145 views | chicoazul |
| Did you know on 13:41 - May 4 by Guthrum |
Are you suggesting locking people up for something they haven't done yet, but somebody thinks they might? Or simply like the US three strikes system in which there is no hope of redemption or rehabilitation beyond a certain threshold, however much time passes or evidence of character change exists? |
The data is in. It’s not a question of if they offend, and there is no question of rehabilitation. My point again, is why aren’t these people in jail? Why is crime, certain crime anyway, legal? | |
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| Did you know on 14:16 - May 4 with 121 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Did you know on 12:14 - May 4 by MattinLondon |
Criminals aren’t free to commit more crime - they do their time and upon release, society hopes that they don’t commit further crime.
You can’t keep people in jail forever (well you can depending on the crime) as there isn’t enough jail space. |
Indeed. The real story behind this thread is that the prison system is ineffective at changing behaviour. I am sure there is a lot of room for improvement. |  |
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| Did you know on 14:17 - May 4 with 118 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Did you know on 14:05 - May 4 by chicoazul |
The data is in. It’s not a question of if they offend, and there is no question of rehabilitation. My point again, is why aren’t these people in jail? Why is crime, certain crime anyway, legal? |
Don't you need more nuanced data in order to debate a question like "why is crime legal"? |  |
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