| The rules of war- 2025 11:48 - Jun 18 with 4461 views | BlueOura |
1) - Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants in Gaza, take over the land bit by bit and effectively commit a slow genocide on the people living there - no intervention from Western nations at all, just the odd mumble of condemnation after about 20 years.
2) - Israel is allowed to attack Iran in 'self-defence' just in case Iran might have been planning to attack them first. Israel has a'right to defend itself' of course, as we are regularly told.
3) - Israel and lots of Western nations are allowed to have nuclear weapons, Iran are not allowed because that would be dangerous to the World.
4) - The US ( and probably other western nations ) are set to jump into this war and 'help' Israel, because obviously Iran are the big threat to us all. We couldn't possibly help the Palestinians of course.
Complete the list, I'm sure I have missed a few. This World is seriously messed up and inverted. I remember as a kid growing up thinking we were the 'good guys' and these other strange countries on the news were evil and the enemy. They sure did a good job with the propaganda and brain-washing. I wonder if the new generation are going to fall for it so easily. I hope not. |  | | |  |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 23:06 - Jun 19 with 529 views | positivity |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 20:23 - Jun 19 by Pinewoodblue |
Two facts not mention in this thread so far.
The current President of Iran is regarded as a moderate.
The largest Jewish settlement outside of Israel and the occupied zones is in Iran.
Finding it difficult to work out if Putin or Netanyahu are pulling Trumps strings. This morning it looked as if it might be the latter but Trump putting off a decision for two weeks suggests otherwise.
Foreign Secretary currently in Washington and then heading for Geneva to meet up with French, German & Iranian officials hopefully some good will come out of that, |
with trump, the person pulling the strings is generally the last person he's spoken to... |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 06:50 - Jun 20 with 426 views | WeWereZombies |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 05:47 - Jun 19 by charlie_lynton |
But whose rules, that's the problem. You can't have 'rules of war' |
There are long established pathways to rules that govern conduct during conflict:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war
'Laws of war define sovereignty and nationhood, states and territories, occupation, and other critical terms of law...modern laws of war address the declarations of war, acceptance of surrender and the treatment of prisoners of war, military necessity, along with distinction and proportionality; and the prohibition of certain weapons that may cause unnecessary suffering...The first traces of a law of war come from the Babylonians. It is the Code of Hammurabi... in 1750 B.C...laws imposing a code of conduct in the event of war:
I prescribe these laws so that the strong do not oppress the weak.'
Sadly we seem to have gone backwards in the last decade when it comes to the protection of civilians during conflict. |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 08:56 - Jun 20 with 350 views | Rimsy |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 20:27 - Jun 19 by noggin |
I'd like to see the Israeli government and their supporters wiped off the face of the earth. It doesn't mean I would actually do it, even if I had the means. |
Strange reply. Each to there own I suppose. |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 09:50 - Jun 20 with 336 views | blueasfook |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 20:27 - Jun 19 by noggin |
I'd like to see the Israeli government and their supporters wiped off the face of the earth. It doesn't mean I would actually do it, even if I had the means. |
Appalling post from you - yet again. |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 10:49 - Jun 20 with 254 views | charlie_lynton |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 06:50 - Jun 20 by WeWereZombies |
There are long established pathways to rules that govern conduct during conflict:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_war
'Laws of war define sovereignty and nationhood, states and territories, occupation, and other critical terms of law...modern laws of war address the declarations of war, acceptance of surrender and the treatment of prisoners of war, military necessity, along with distinction and proportionality; and the prohibition of certain weapons that may cause unnecessary suffering...The first traces of a law of war come from the Babylonians. It is the Code of Hammurabi... in 1750 B.C...laws imposing a code of conduct in the event of war:
I prescribe these laws so that the strong do not oppress the weak.'
Sadly we seem to have gone backwards in the last decade when it comes to the protection of civilians during conflict. |
Well, that's somebody's version of what they would like it to be. But no-one gives them the right to enforce it. 'Laws of war' are just preferences by the hegemonic power. I suspect it will be a different story when China is in charge. |  | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 11:05 - Jun 20 with 199 views | WeWereZombies |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 10:49 - Jun 20 by charlie_lynton |
Well, that's somebody's version of what they would like it to be. But no-one gives them the right to enforce it. 'Laws of war' are just preferences by the hegemonic power. I suspect it will be a different story when China is in charge. |
It isn't just someone's version - there are internationally agreed laws and the Geneva Convention. Terrible as war is things could be far worse if no accepted rules of engagement were in place. The United States may appear to be the dominant World power at the moment, just as the British Empire was two centuries ago, but there is always resistance (given the unfairness that ensues from dominance) so there will always be disagreement; the Maoris held the might of the British Empire at bay for some time and they were mainly using wooden weapons having never developed metalwork. Even in defeat their warrior creed gave them respect and pride.
So I doubt it will be a different story if China is ever 'in charge', although the coming years are likely to see a rise in power for Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey and Nigeria that may stop any nation having much in the way of absolute control anymore. And that isn't accounting for the quiet buying up of the Earth's resources being undertaken by Saudi Arabia so that oil money can be converted to more general use on a scale that may yet rival China's economic assertion of production capability. | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 11:58 - Jun 20 with 149 views | charlie_lynton |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 11:05 - Jun 20 by WeWereZombies |
It isn't just someone's version - there are internationally agreed laws and the Geneva Convention. Terrible as war is things could be far worse if no accepted rules of engagement were in place. The United States may appear to be the dominant World power at the moment, just as the British Empire was two centuries ago, but there is always resistance (given the unfairness that ensues from dominance) so there will always be disagreement; the Maoris held the might of the British Empire at bay for some time and they were mainly using wooden weapons having never developed metalwork. Even in defeat their warrior creed gave them respect and pride.
So I doubt it will be a different story if China is ever 'in charge', although the coming years are likely to see a rise in power for Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey and Nigeria that may stop any nation having much in the way of absolute control anymore. And that isn't accounting for the quiet buying up of the Earth's resources being undertaken by Saudi Arabia so that oil money can be converted to more general use on a scale that may yet rival China's economic assertion of production capability. |
'Internationally agreed laws' as long as the US says so. Once they fall, we will find they mysteriously no longer agree with it. That's all it means. | | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 12:14 - Jun 20 with 115 views | WeWereZombies |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 11:58 - Jun 20 by charlie_lynton |
'Internationally agreed laws' as long as the US says so. Once they fall, we will find they mysteriously no longer agree with it. That's all it means. |
And where were was the United States 3775 years ago ? | |
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