| Only 2 players started last night 07:47 - Aug 9 with 1152 views | onceablue |
From the side that got promoted from the chamionship in 2023/24
Davis and Hurst
Other changes as below
RB - Johnson instead of Clarke DOWNGRADE
CB - O’Shea instead of Woolfie UPGRADE
CB - Greaves instead of Burgess DOWNGRADE
CM - Taylor instead of Lloungo DOWNGRADE
CM - Matsu instead of Morsy DOWNGRADE
RW - Obengne instead of Burns DOWNGRADE
10 - Szmodics instead of Chaplin DOWNGRADE
LW - Clarke instead of Hutchinson DOWNGRADE
The above is only my opinion of course and others may disagree
The side of 23/24 all knew their jobs and I think the team cohesion and mentality was very underrated
I think we will be okay this season and a point last night was a terrific result in light of the performance
McKenna needs to sort his best 11 quickly and play as regularly as possible
Promotion Possible? I hope so
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| Only 2 players started last night on 08:57 - Aug 9 with 120 views | onceablue |
| Only 2 players started last night on 08:50 - Aug 9 by Churchman |
RB - Johnson instead of Clarke DOWNGRADE. Agree, but Clarke is injured.
CB - O’Shea instead of Woolfie UPGRADE. Agree.
CB - Greaves instead of Burgess DOWNGRADE. Disagree. Greaves is a better footballer and will prove it if he plays week in week out.
CM - Taylor instead of Lloungo DOWNGRADE. Luongo is not the player he was and I don’t see Taylor as more than a squad player.
CM - Matsu instead of Morsy DOWNGRADE. Matsu is not the same player as Morsy (whose career is ending) so an unfair comparison.
RW - Obengne instead of Burns DOWNGRADE. Different type of player returning after a year out. Give Thailand a chance
10 - Szmodics instead of Chaplin DOWNGRADE. Chaplin is still with us, Szmodics is returning from a long time out and is a better goalscorer
LW - Clarke instead of Hutchinson DOWNGRADE. Clarke was actually more effective than Omari’s the season before last as it took OH time to grow into the team. Clarke is rarely played in his Sunderland position and has played in front of a hopeless midfield.
In other words it is unfair to judge players at this level after one game away at Birmingham. A number of the players you favour are still with us an£ some of them want away.
What the club must do in the next three weeks is ship out a billy big bollx player and anyone who doesn’t want to be here. We also need better in midfield and support for Hirst. We also need to understand why we are picking up so many injuries. Is it the training, type of injury prone players we bring in or the way we play? Certainly you are going to get more injuries playing as the away team every week, but I’m hoping we don’t do that this season.
In conclusion, comparisons like the one you make are unfair, simplistic and pointless.
We didn’t lose last night btw. |
I only made the Comparison as I think it is going to be a lot tougher this year with this squad than 2023/2024
Can I ask a question then.
Ogbene/Burns both fit who would you play
Clarke/Hutchinson both fit and still here who would you play | | | |
| Only 2 players started last night on 09:04 - Aug 9 with 90 views | bsw72 |
| Only 2 players started last night on 08:57 - Aug 9 by onceablue |
I only made the Comparison as I think it is going to be a lot tougher this year with this squad than 2023/2024
Can I ask a question then.
Ogbene/Burns both fit who would you play
Clarke/Hutchinson both fit and still here who would you play |
The answer to your question is not as simple as pick from these two.
Who are we playing, what is the rest of the team etc.
There are times when Burns will be preferred to Ogbene, and Clarke to Hutchinson, depending on who else is alongside and who we are up against.
You have to pick a team for the game you are about to play, not what you think is the best 11 individuals you consider in the squad. |  | | |
| Only 2 players started last night on 09:12 - Aug 9 with 64 views | Churchman |
| Only 2 players started last night on 08:57 - Aug 9 by onceablue |
I only made the Comparison as I think it is going to be a lot tougher this year with this squad than 2023/2024
Can I ask a question then.
Ogbene/Burns both fit who would you play
Clarke/Hutchinson both fit and still here who would you play |
Not seen enough of Ogbene to call it. He was settling in and got injured so a comparison is unfair. The Luton version - I’d take him over Burns. And even that’s unfair because Burns had lost a yard of pace before his injury and regardless of how well he does, he won’t get it back. That’s why the simplistic comparisons are pointless.
This time two seasons ago in the Championship Clarke. Hutchinson was a sub, Clarke was one of the most devastating Championship players.
Now, if fully fit and committed to playing for the club, obviously Hutchinson. But he wants away. Feels he is Premier League, above us. This week a cold, next week a sore toe, week after the dog died - I doubt he will play for us again and if what’s been reported is true (I hope it isn’t and the media is usually rubbish), I fear for his career with that attitude. But who knows the truth of it? I am probably doing the guy a disservice.
So if Clarke is committed, I’d play him. |  | | |
| Only 2 players started last night on 09:14 - Aug 9 with 62 views | onceablue |
| Only 2 players started last night on 09:04 - Aug 9 by bsw72 |
The answer to your question is not as simple as pick from these two.
Who are we playing, what is the rest of the team etc.
There are times when Burns will be preferred to Ogbene, and Clarke to Hutchinson, depending on who else is alongside and who we are up against.
You have to pick a team for the game you are about to play, not what you think is the best 11 individuals you consider in the squad. |
Yes agree with your points.
But if my life depended on it would be Burns/Hutchinson every time and that was the point I was trying to make in my original post.
I know we have to look forward and support the team which I will do every week with vigour and enthusiasm it’s just I have a real soft spot for the Championship side of 23/24 the best season since 2000/01 | | | |
| Only 2 players started last night on 09:26 - Aug 9 with 34 views | Herbivore |
I always find that making sweeping judgements about the quality of a squad is best done after one game when we've not concluded all of our transfer business yet. Even better when those judgements are made solely on the basis of that one game and not on everything else they've done in their careers to date. Good work. |  |
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