| Driving offence advice please 18:57 - Sep 16 with 3451 views | soupytwist |
A member of my family has received a section 172 notice of intended prosecution for driving without due care and attention.
It’s the result of them rear-ending a car approaching a roundabout. The police did not attend, the person in the car they hit was very reasonable at the time, probably because they knew that the incident occurred because they’d had to brake suddenly due to erratic behaviour by the person in front of them.
However, the person in the car they hit is claiming whiplash etc. and their car had a rear facing dash cam which does show that the family member is more or less bang to rights. Is it likely that the driver sent that footage to the police? Or perhaps sent it somewhere else to do with their claim and it’s found its way to the police from there? Why would they do that, does it mean the injury claim is likely to be paid at a higher amount?
Either way the date on the S172 is more than 14 days (27 in fact) after the incident which is beyond the time frame for sending one isn’t it?
That aside, what’s the likely outcome from there? Complete the form and get points and a fine presumably? It’s their first offence.
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| Driving offence advice please on 11:29 - Sep 17 with 412 views | soupytwist |
| Driving offence advice please on 09:20 - Sep 17 by ShortyBlue92 |
So your family member was not paying attention to the vehicle in front ?
I’m not sure there is any case for the defence |
My original post said that the dashcam footage showed they were pretty much bang to rights. I don't think I've suggested that there is a case for the defence.
I was asking about what happens next and whether the after than 14 days sending of the NIP was relevant.
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| Driving offence advice please on 11:59 - Sep 17 with 343 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Driving offence advice please on 11:27 - Sep 17 by gsoly |
I think driving is so 'easy' for a lot of people now and there's hardly any Police on the road that we've all become a little numb to the potential dangers of it all. Ultimately, if you rear end a car on the approach to a roundabout... you've done something pretty daft, and should be punished for it. Take the medicine and the insurance hike and move on. |
As with operating any machinery, the more familiar you become with it the more you do things without thinking about them. That complacency can easily lead to dangerous actions unless there is a regular reference and check against health safety. |  |
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| Driving offence advice please on 12:04 - Sep 17 with 319 views | giant_stow |
| Driving offence advice please on 11:59 - Sep 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
As with operating any machinery, the more familiar you become with it the more you do things without thinking about them. That complacency can easily lead to dangerous actions unless there is a regular reference and check against health safety. |
I agree with you both about it being easy to forget how difficult driving is / how easy it is to over relax. About 18 months ago, I must admit that having driven for over 30 years with no crash, i considered myself a good driver. Since then I've written my old car off, got a speeding ticket and now done my roundabout cockup!
PS: Soupy - sorry for jumping on your thread yesterday - rude. [Post edited 17 Sep 12:05]
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| Driving offence advice please on 12:06 - Sep 17 with 314 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Driving offence advice please on 12:04 - Sep 17 by giant_stow |
I agree with you both about it being easy to forget how difficult driving is / how easy it is to over relax. About 18 months ago, I must admit that having driven for over 30 years with no crash, i considered myself a good driver. Since then I've written my old car off, got a speeding ticket and now done my roundabout cockup!
PS: Soupy - sorry for jumping on your thread yesterday - rude. [Post edited 17 Sep 12:05]
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After driving for over 30 years I finally fell asleep at the wheel.
No surprise really. Should take regular rest breaks. | |
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| Driving offence advice please on 12:07 - Sep 17 with 311 views | giant_stow |
| Driving offence advice please on 12:06 - Sep 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
After driving for over 30 years I finally fell asleep at the wheel.
No surprise really. Should take regular rest breaks. |
Ouch - were you alright?
I guess it takes something like these incidents to remind us hey? | |
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| Driving offence advice please on 12:11 - Sep 17 with 298 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Driving offence advice please on 12:07 - Sep 17 by giant_stow |
Ouch - were you alright?
I guess it takes something like these incidents to remind us hey? |
I'll tell you once I wake up.
It was just an old joke based on your driving for over 30 years comment. The old insurance claim comments classic. Another favourite was "the pedestrian was all over the place. I had to swerve several times before I hit him!" | |
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| Driving offence advice please on 12:16 - Sep 17 with 281 views | giant_stow |
| Driving offence advice please on 12:11 - Sep 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I'll tell you once I wake up.
It was just an old joke based on your driving for over 30 years comment. The old insurance claim comments classic. Another favourite was "the pedestrian was all over the place. I had to swerve several times before I hit him!" |
Ah see! I fell for the 'they took with the word gullible out of the dictionary' once. true story | |
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| Driving offence advice please on 15:34 - Sep 17 with 93 views | ronnyd |
| Driving offence advice please on 08:37 - Sep 17 by Ryorry |
Whilst I sympathise with the relative driving according to the reasonable presumption (we’ve all done it) of cars in front accelerating away while lights are green, it’s actually a really dangerous presumption - there can always be unforeseen hazards, like a kid or dog suddenly running across, necessitating an emergency stop.
And it’s never minor to be shunted from behind, always a psychological shock even if no physical injury, + inconvenience of car being out of action while repaired.
Speaking from the experience of being shunted from behind by a HGV on a sliproad - the driver was obviously expecting me to pick up speed and join the empty motorway, when in fact I was being flagged down by a couple of workmen in hi vis to stop and wait while they cleared the last few cones from where they’d been working. He was either not paying attention or they were in a blind spot for him. He stove in the rear door of my Landrover Defender despite the spare tyre being on it, & I was picking out glass beads from the cab for a year afterwards. Luckily my dog wasn’t on board - if he had been, he’d probably have been seriously injured, or worse.
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My car was shunted in the rear (ooer) by a car parked by a driver who forgot to apply the handbrake.
While the damage was mostly to the boot lid, the kinetic energy along the length of the car caused a lot of minor little trim and internal fitting movements that only manifested themselves over time.
The car was a write off, so bought it back from the insurance company and had it roughly repaired privately.
Nothing really fitted very well after that.
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