| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match 06:43 - Nov 2 with 1073 views | RIPbobby | Always the best part of playing QPR is Clive from loft for words long piece on the match. He is quite an artist with words and will find an interesting flip on the match. The result itself was most impressive with good days for most of our players. There are certainly a number of injury issues leading up to Tuesday match, but the current formula seems to be working against this version of the championship. When we went up 2 years ago I think quality took us up, but this time I think it appears to be more about sustained effort over the minutes. Interesting twist. |  | | |  |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 07:03 - Nov 2 with 980 views | NthQldITFC | I think your second last sentence is the wrong way around, to be honest. Or at least it was sustained teamwork and effort last time around, whereas this time we have significantly more quality and the teamwork is still building. |  |
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| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 08:58 - Nov 2 with 601 views | RIPbobby |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 07:03 - Nov 2 by NthQldITFC | I think your second last sentence is the wrong way around, to be honest. Or at least it was sustained teamwork and effort last time around, whereas this time we have significantly more quality and the teamwork is still building. |
Yeah perhaps you were right correcting me. I was kinda of also hinting that the worker(Matusiwa or Taylor) next to the quality (Cajuste or Nunez) wasn't working. I have said for ages that we need 2 workers with the quality just around them. Now this is going to be difficult in a 3 game week as we only have 2 of each and use 3 at a time. So realistically we are short of 1 worker at least. This becomes worse if we accrue injuries/suspension to Taylor or Matusiwa. So with over 60 days until the transfer window opens we need to get a kid from the youths to do the hard yards and fill our bench. I'm not sure if players like Harry Clarke/Johnson/McAteer have the right transferrable skills to do this or not. Perhaps? I think Humphreys is good enough to fill in for the quality pair. But it will be an interesting conundrum over the next 2 months and lots of fixtures. Perhaps a complete unknown will come into the side or maybe a 'utility' player will step up. But best of all we stay fit. Watford will be tough on Tuesday. I'll settle for a 1-0 again. |  | |  |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:08 - Nov 2 with 561 views | Herbivore |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 08:58 - Nov 2 by RIPbobby | Yeah perhaps you were right correcting me. I was kinda of also hinting that the worker(Matusiwa or Taylor) next to the quality (Cajuste or Nunez) wasn't working. I have said for ages that we need 2 workers with the quality just around them. Now this is going to be difficult in a 3 game week as we only have 2 of each and use 3 at a time. So realistically we are short of 1 worker at least. This becomes worse if we accrue injuries/suspension to Taylor or Matusiwa. So with over 60 days until the transfer window opens we need to get a kid from the youths to do the hard yards and fill our bench. I'm not sure if players like Harry Clarke/Johnson/McAteer have the right transferrable skills to do this or not. Perhaps? I think Humphreys is good enough to fill in for the quality pair. But it will be an interesting conundrum over the next 2 months and lots of fixtures. Perhaps a complete unknown will come into the side or maybe a 'utility' player will step up. But best of all we stay fit. Watford will be tough on Tuesday. I'll settle for a 1-0 again. |
We don't need to be bringing youths into the side or squad or converting full backs or wingers into CMs. They might have different attributes but the likes of Cajuste, Nunez and Humphreys are all more than capable CMs at this level. Two of them would walk into pretty much every other team. Two games isn't enough of a sample to say that we're that much better with Taylor and Matusiwa in the middle, let's not forget we won three on the bounce not very long ago with Taylor getting virtually no minutes. [Post edited 2 Nov 9:15]
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| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:13 - Nov 2 with 524 views | RIPbobby |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:08 - Nov 2 by Herbivore | We don't need to be bringing youths into the side or squad or converting full backs or wingers into CMs. They might have different attributes but the likes of Cajuste, Nunez and Humphreys are all more than capable CMs at this level. Two of them would walk into pretty much every other team. Two games isn't enough of a sample to say that we're that much better with Taylor and Matusiwa in the middle, let's not forget we won three on the bounce not very long ago with Taylor getting virtually no minutes. [Post edited 2 Nov 9:15]
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Yes what you are saying is relevant, but the point I'm making is we don't look like we a going to ship too many goals against us anymore. We look much more a solid unit with 2 workers in the middle. That is what I see right now anyway. [Post edited 2 Nov 9:13]
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| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:17 - Nov 2 with 493 views | Herbivore |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:13 - Nov 2 by RIPbobby | Yes what you are saying is relevant, but the point I'm making is we don't look like we a going to ship too many goals against us anymore. We look much more a solid unit with 2 workers in the middle. That is what I see right now anyway. [Post edited 2 Nov 9:13]
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But aside from the Charlton debacle we haven't really looked like we're going to ship loads of goals most of the season, our problem has more been individual errors meaning we've given up a goal in every game (bar a couple) and made life hard for ourselves as a result. That also happened yesterday and we had a few other sloppy defensive moments yesterday too but we managed to outgun QPR with our attacking quality. |  |
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| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:27 - Nov 2 with 459 views | RIPbobby |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:17 - Nov 2 by Herbivore | But aside from the Charlton debacle we haven't really looked like we're going to ship loads of goals most of the season, our problem has more been individual errors meaning we've given up a goal in every game (bar a couple) and made life hard for ourselves as a result. That also happened yesterday and we had a few other sloppy defensive moments yesterday too but we managed to outgun QPR with our attacking quality. |
Yes individual errors have been a contributing factor. But I think the new shape of the team looks much more robust. I don't think a long pump through the middle is going to hurt us now. Remember back to the derby game? We were crusing at 1-0 and it was only a matter of time before we scored the 2nd. Then suddenly we are quickly 2-1 down from absolutely nothing other than long pumps forward where we parted for no apparent reason. Getting back to yesterday once they scored against the run of play, we did look shot of confidence. But our shape held together fairly well and we didn't really have many problems. If anything yesterday we only looked troubled from their shots from distance. Once we went 4-1 up we kind of killed the game. Something we have not been able to do earlier in the season. |  | |  |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:33 - Nov 2 with 424 views | Herbivore |
| Looking forward to Clive's take on yesterday's match on 09:27 - Nov 2 by RIPbobby | Yes individual errors have been a contributing factor. But I think the new shape of the team looks much more robust. I don't think a long pump through the middle is going to hurt us now. Remember back to the derby game? We were crusing at 1-0 and it was only a matter of time before we scored the 2nd. Then suddenly we are quickly 2-1 down from absolutely nothing other than long pumps forward where we parted for no apparent reason. Getting back to yesterday once they scored against the run of play, we did look shot of confidence. But our shape held together fairly well and we didn't really have many problems. If anything yesterday we only looked troubled from their shots from distance. Once we went 4-1 up we kind of killed the game. Something we have not been able to do earlier in the season. |
Being undone by long balls forward, which happened against Charlton too, has nothing to do with our shape. Those goals happened from really poor individual defending from our CBs. Not sure I agree with your take from yesterday, I really enjoyed our performance and we looked a threat but we weren't all that solid, Walton made a couple of sharp saves and they had other chances. Taylor has come in and played well but Cajuste has also had good performances as well. We're still a work in progress much as yesterday was a big and important win. |  |
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