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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign 11:31 - Dec 16 with 495 viewsgiant_stow

Noticed a take down of this essay in the Telegraph today so went and read the abstract (only) here:

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2025/12/14/jme-2025-110961

Got to say, its one of the few times I can happily side with a Telegraph columnist, but what say yous?

For me as a white western male, i'm aware of the limitations of the value of my opinion especially when the argument is partly about cultural norms and constructs, but that said, FGM is just wrong isn't it?

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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:39 - Dec 16 with 459 viewsbaxterbasics

It certainly is. Barbaric, and really a tool of control and oppression.

Also I don't like seeing it compared to the male equivalent, which is unhelpful. For men the comparable impact on the recipient is close to zero.

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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:40 - Dec 16 with 455 viewsMiaow

Altering any non-consenting person's genitalia without medical necessity is, to put it mildly, reprehensible.
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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:46 - Dec 16 with 420 viewsgiant_stow

Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:39 - Dec 16 by baxterbasics

It certainly is. Barbaric, and really a tool of control and oppression.

Also I don't like seeing it compared to the male equivalent, which is unhelpful. For men the comparable impact on the recipient is close to zero.


Yeah the male comparison feels desperate and wrong for sure.

Is this so wrong that I shouldn't have even posted it? Not sure....

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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:56 - Dec 16 with 395 viewsKievthegreat

In my view, any circumcision of children not performed for medical reasons is barbaric. I'm willing to concede though, that there is a huge range within that term "circumcision" from relatively minor to extreme. I'd also agree that the worst practices causing lifelong suffering and pain affect women disproportionately.

That's my view based on my principles. However I'm not qualified to judge the cultural aspects of female circumcision in certain African cultures, male circumcision in Judaism, etc...

It is probably true that people assume that all female circumcision is towards the extremes of FGM and that it does lead to stereotyping of communities. However it seems a massive stretch to equate Labiaplasty with the worst categories of FGM.
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Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:58 - Dec 16 with 381 viewsgiant_stow

Essay on FGM: Harms of the current global anti-FGM campaign on 11:56 - Dec 16 by Kievthegreat

In my view, any circumcision of children not performed for medical reasons is barbaric. I'm willing to concede though, that there is a huge range within that term "circumcision" from relatively minor to extreme. I'd also agree that the worst practices causing lifelong suffering and pain affect women disproportionately.

That's my view based on my principles. However I'm not qualified to judge the cultural aspects of female circumcision in certain African cultures, male circumcision in Judaism, etc...

It is probably true that people assume that all female circumcision is towards the extremes of FGM and that it does lead to stereotyping of communities. However it seems a massive stretch to equate Labiaplasty with the worst categories of FGM.


Interesting and considered thoughts - ta.

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