| Politics and football 14:49 - Mar 28 with 726 views | NederlandseBlue |
I'm surprised a few have said politics has no place on a football forum. Especially when Reform were publicising their positions on football on the same day that ITFC shirts were on the top of their social media channels.
How do we feel about the following (and the implied endorsement from our club)...
Coaching diversity:
The FA has a target to have 25%+ of coaching staff for the mens national teams across all levels to come from non-white backgrounds by 2028.
To reach this, the FA partners with clubs and academies to offer "volunteer placement opportunities" for people from historically underrepresented backgrounds.Through a "carefully structured programme" of learning and development to gain "experience and exposure within a professional environment". There is also guidance for county FAs, and grassroots support for those from south asian backgrounds where football is not commonly considered a career path. Clubs must also report off-field workforce diversity to track progress.
The FA says it will "always take a meritocratic approach by appointing the best people for roles" but recognises "the importance of having a broader range of participants across the sport".
Today, 40%+ of players are black yet there are 4 black head coaches across the top four leagues in England. This number that has not changed much for the past 5 years.
Reform's position: This is "woke nonsense" and should be scrapped.
Football governance:
The newly established Independent Football Regulator is meant to "protect and promote the financial soundness" of clubs and the "financial resilience" of the sport overall, as well as "safeguard the heritage of English football". It aims to strengthen owner suitability tests and prevent financial mismanagement while protecting fan interests through enhanced engagement, and blocking breakaway leagues.
Today, 73 clubs across the top four leagues in England depend on owner investment to remain active. While losses in the Premier League have narrowed, they have widened across the EFL. Derby, Wigan, Bury, Macclesfield, Reading, Southend, and the ongoing issues at Sheffield Wednesday, are examples of just a few of the clubs that have suffered winding up orders in recent years.
Reform's position: This is "disastrous" and a "bonkers" idea as "government-controlled quangos would fail to understand the sport and undermine the success of the Premier League". They prefer football should be "left alone". |  |
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| Politics and football on 14:56 - Mar 28 with 661 views | Kievthegreat |
The people shouting "keep politics out of football" never really meant keep ALL politics out. Just the stuff they didn't like, hence why they will happily cry about BLM and Rainbow Laces, but will lap up Farage promoting himself with the club.
It's always been "keep the politics I don't like out of football"
Ignoring of course that the existence of LGBTQ+ people is not politics, but when they don't like something, it becomes political.
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| Politics and football on 21:04 - Mar 28 with 525 views | Olcol |
| Politics and football on 14:56 - Mar 28 by Kievthegreat |
The people shouting "keep politics out of football" never really meant keep ALL politics out. Just the stuff they didn't like, hence why they will happily cry about BLM and Rainbow Laces, but will lap up Farage promoting himself with the club.
It's always been "keep the politics I don't like out of football"
Ignoring of course that the existence of LGBTQ+ people is not politics, but when they don't like something, it becomes political.
Edit hit send too early! [Post edited 28 Mar 14:59]
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You are probably correct. The thinks is that the extremes of the left side, and right side of politics is what we get mostly from media. There is very little common ground now. If you listen to fox or sky news you are getting right wing properganda. It's the same for the other side. We are polarised, we will never all be pushing all together if it continues. Having more people of different race in a team, or managing or in any position to me is good thinking and inclusivity. The more diverse the better. 99% of the worlds population wants to be left to prosper in pease. Is only the Putin's, Netinyahoo..and Trump types that fork it up for everyone. | | | |
| Politics and football on 21:16 - Mar 28 with 487 views | RetroBlue |
I dont think its somuch, politics & football, so much as politics and sport in general. what better way to engage people than through the medium of peoples interest, and social outlet, sport. Politics has invaded various sporting events for decades. Apartaide and South African cricket..Palestine ( Black September terrorist group) and the Munich Olympics massacre.... Taking the knee, in football, and Celtic vs Rangers is a massive political statement! |  |
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| Politics and football on 21:39 - Mar 28 with 472 views | urbanpenguin |
| Politics and football on 21:04 - Mar 28 by Olcol |
You are probably correct. The thinks is that the extremes of the left side, and right side of politics is what we get mostly from media. There is very little common ground now. If you listen to fox or sky news you are getting right wing properganda. It's the same for the other side. We are polarised, we will never all be pushing all together if it continues. Having more people of different race in a team, or managing or in any position to me is good thinking and inclusivity. The more diverse the better. 99% of the worlds population wants to be left to prosper in pease. Is only the Putin's, Netinyahoo..and Trump types that fork it up for everyone. |
I see the extremes of the right side of politics a lot. But genuinely what are the extremes of the left we are being bombarded with? If you are referring to recent platforming of the Greens, then that's barely centre left compared to most socially democratic parties of Northern and central Europe.
I'm just not sure we get a lot of "extreme left" on the airwaves but we live with pretty right wing language on the regular from some main parties and publications right now. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:59]
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| Politics and football on 07:02 - Mar 29 with 368 views | Olcol |
| Politics and football on 21:39 - Mar 28 by urbanpenguin |
I see the extremes of the right side of politics a lot. But genuinely what are the extremes of the left we are being bombarded with? If you are referring to recent platforming of the Greens, then that's barely centre left compared to most socially democratic parties of Northern and central Europe.
I'm just not sure we get a lot of "extreme left" on the airwaves but we live with pretty right wing language on the regular from some main parties and publications right now. [Post edited 28 Mar 21:59]
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I tried to show some balance, but as you can see. I found no social or green bullshit. The media is 85% fascist biased. The left is struggling for any form of representation in western media. Has been going that way since 1980 and is so unbalanced it's depressing.
Trump is a 21st century Hitler if not removed. It's media moguls and arms manufacturers that have put him there and financed him.
Reform in the UK and One nation in Australia are following similar paths. Stay vigilant. | | | |
| Politics and football on 08:49 - Mar 29 with 282 views | Blue_Uprising |
The thing is there has always been a link between football clubs and social issues. Most obviously in football clubs that have represented social or religious groups significantly in their fan base.
As part of the community football clubs will often get involved in supporting community issues - whether charity, being involved in ‘city of culture’ bids, or youth programmes or programmes for the disadvantaged.
At a national and overall sport level there are good reasons why football clubs have been seen as a focus for attempting to end discrimination on sexual preference or race because of historical issues in this sport (and other sports). The national sport is always going to have this focus, it’s still unlikely for a footballer to be openly gay despite this being a common thing in most other workplaces.
Being anti-homophobia and anti racist, supporting charity or addressing disadvantage is not political by the way. The fact that people may describe something like that as ‘political’ is quite worrying. Perhaps it shows how the concept of politics has shifted from ‘being for the people’ to being ‘for only my group of people’
As for the regulator. Football on the finance side whether through the FA or UEFA have had ample opportunity to put this right time and time again without seeming to be able to do it. There would be no regulator on the table if frankly the leaders of the game were not so avaricious and corrupt.
But surely people can see that the mixing of societal issues and football, or even proposed financial regulation is totally different to aligning your club and brand with a single political party! Having lunch with a local politician, council leaders or even inviting politicians to occasional games is also not the issue.
When people say football and politics can’t mix this is what they mean - the brand and club identity being co-opted. It is totally absurd to align your club to one political ideology (of any flavour) and only the most stupid club leadership would even consider it (before quickly dropping it as a moronic idea). |  | | |
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