| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums 21:29 - Jun 20 with 8650 views | jasondozzell |
Did a Harry from Bath and had a look to see what they're saying on Bournemouth and Wolves forums. Interesting mixture of comments. Clearly not a lot of love for him at Wolves because of the state when he left but recurring theme amongst both forums is that he did a fair job in keeping them up in the first season. He clearly has something about him. It's also promising that in both situations it's acknowledged that he got more out of a relatively weak squad than was expected.
Bournemouth
GON was the difference maker that year, he inherited a side with little attacking quality and a weak defence on paper and somehow managed to develop a way of playing that allowed us to eek out enough wins to survive. He did a brilliant job despite the fact it wasn’t easy on the eye at times.
Got to feel sorry for them.. ..nobody deserves to watch that.....still at least it isn't us so couldn't really care less.
Gary worked hard to keep us up, the football wasn't vintage, but I bet if you asked West Ham fans if they would have suffered bland football for their PL status it would be a no brainer. I hope that he gets a decent job somewhere and stays in the game at PL level. Its easy to criticise managers too often and forget the tasks that they have to ensure that their clubs survive in this League?
I'm just saying it's not a given that Gon would get a job as a PE teacher.
Truth is likely somewhere in the middle. He did his job, kept us up. Not a terrible manager and not a miracle worker. No need to demonise him.
Even if that were true then so what? I would have been wrong, it happens. He’s clearly good enough to manage at this level.
He was sacked from Wolves for not being able to do it and had one mini purple patch with us in a dreadful years football in a team that was more than capable of staying up.
He kept us up against the odds, you can dress it up however you want but at the end of the day that is the reality. Next to no one outside of the AFCB fan base gave us a chance that year, and he kept us up with games to spare. Whatever was said about him at the time, he got a job done that many wouldn’t have. The football wasn’t the prettiest but who gives a flying fanny, survival is everything in that first year.
Wolves
Nuno to Lage level of drop off. I know he gives a good PowerPoint, but why?
The man kept 2 teams in the Premier League...give him some respect (whilst ignoring the total collapse of control he had on a team and essentially managed with zero authority for 3 months)
I’ve liked Ipswich since I was a kid when they had some great players, played good football and punched well above their weight but if they appoint GO I’ll be hoping they go down They’ll probably do ok for a few games but by October it will unravel and if he’s still there at Christmas the list of who’s to blame will be pages long and one name will be conspicuous by it’s absence.
Until he gets hired again in England and gets brutally exposed as being out of his depth the myth of Gary O'Neil being a good manager will continue. I'm eager to see him find a new job; was hoping it would be West Ham but any role will do.
It would be very wolvesy for gon to do well
Its one of those tricks of memory things.
We had that decent run over Christmas and the Chelsea win and we were in the discussion for Europe. Bit like how Fulham are most seasons, get within striking distance and fall back.
Yes he had a injury crisis with regards to the front line and we failed him by not signing a forward to replace Sasa/Fabio (not that GON was a fan of Sasa, despite a couple of vital goals) but we were dreadful in that final part of the season.
GON also had the same problem Rob had - he wanted to be pals with the players and gave the likes of Cunha & Lemina way to much power. As the results got worse, they took control, he threw them under a bus and discipline went out of the window and he had zero control over it.
Felt he did an ok job overall. Lost his way towards the end of course but saying he came in the way he did after Lopetegui's walking off it was a pity the way it finished [Post edited 20 Jun 21:43]
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| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 23:15 - Jun 21 with 454 views | StNeotsBlue |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 14:16 - Jun 21 by Guthrum |
Is that because there's a subconscious expectation that Ashton will again pull a rabbit out of the hat by appointing another unexpected/relatively unknown man who turns out to be brilliant, or that casting the net wider will turn up a hidden genius from some foreign league who is nonetheless perfect for the Prem?
It's all very well to expect us to turn up another McKenna, but how often does that really happen? Plus the club is still not such an attractive proposition as more established top-tier places like Brighton or Bournemouth, even Forest or Brentford?
Are people annoyed because we've opted for a degree of pragmatism over magical dreams? |
Think it's more a case of if a month ago someone had said to you or any sane ITFC supporter in the world, who would you rather was the manager of ITFC, McK or GON what would be the honest response? The disappointment and underwhelming reaction of many of fans to us appointing O'Neil is understandable.
I wish him well but I fear it's a poisoned chalice for him if we're struggling come Autumn he'll be in trouble. |  | | |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 23:21 - Jun 21 with 440 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 23:15 - Jun 21 by StNeotsBlue |
Think it's more a case of if a month ago someone had said to you or any sane ITFC supporter in the world, who would you rather was the manager of ITFC, McK or GON what would be the honest response? The disappointment and underwhelming reaction of many of fans to us appointing O'Neil is understandable.
I wish him well but I fear it's a poisoned chalice for him if we're struggling come Autumn he'll be in trouble. |
But is that even a reasonably question or comparison? KmK has stepped down. There is no choice between him and GON. If people have it in for GON just because he’s not KmK, that’s just silly. |  | | |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 00:06 - Jun 22 with 383 views | StNeotsBlue |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 23:21 - Jun 21 by SuffolkPunchFC |
But is that even a reasonably question or comparison? KmK has stepped down. There is no choice between him and GON. If people have it in for GON just because he’s not KmK, that’s just silly. |
I haven't got it in for GON but it does feel like a case of where your fit wife has left you, your pal has promised you they'll set you up with an equally fit or potentially better looking bird who loves it and you end having a blind date with a munter who has her legs permanently crossed. It's understandable why people are disappointed. | | | |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 08:49 - Jun 22 with 268 views | tractorboy1978 |
| View from Bournemouth and Wolves forums on 23:15 - Jun 21 by StNeotsBlue |
Think it's more a case of if a month ago someone had said to you or any sane ITFC supporter in the world, who would you rather was the manager of ITFC, McK or GON what would be the honest response? The disappointment and underwhelming reaction of many of fans to us appointing O'Neil is understandable.
I wish him well but I fear it's a poisoned chalice for him if we're struggling come Autumn he'll be in trouble. |
It's a poisoned chalice if a significant portion of the fan base judge him against an unfair standard. Unless we are shockingly bad and miles off it people should be willing to give him the whole season. The reality is we are probably going to be in a relegation battle and if we are just about keeping our head above water and stay up that is an achievement. | | | |
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