| An early test for Andy Burnham 12:03 - Jun 26 with 1239 views | WeWereZombies |
And Keir Starmer showing that he is still Prime Minister:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
'A row has broken out between Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer over the future of the Immigration Minister Mike Tapp.
Tapp had written for the Times newspaper, external calling for foreign care workers to be exempt from Mahmood's plans to change visa rules for migrants already living in the UK.
It is understood that the first Mahmood knew of this was when the newspaper rang her team for comment, and she believes Tapp should be sacked for writing the article, which she sees as a breach of ministerial rules.
But Downing Street is letting it be known that Tapp remains in post and there are no plans to remove him.'
'Last month Andy Burnham, who is widely expected to become the Labour leader and prime minister, told the BBC he "supports the broad thrust" of what Mahmood is proposing.
In addition, the Immigration and Asylum Bill, which will aim to increase the forced removal of people refused asylum, is expected to be put before the House of Commons next Tuesday and is likely to face stiff opposition from some Labour MPs.'
I want Burnham to succeed but this does feel like a 'Whose side are you on ?' issue, and at the moment it is Keir's. |  |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 12:55 - Jun 26 with 1060 views | positivity |
'broad thrust' allows him to agree with starmer on this if he chooses.
hope he does as the care sector would collapse without immigration |  |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 13:10 - Jun 26 with 1011 views | WeWereZombies |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 12:55 - Jun 26 by positivity |
'broad thrust' allows him to agree with starmer on this if he chooses.
hope he does as the care sector would collapse without immigration |
I think, if he is looking at attracting 'Reform' voters back to Labour he will back Mahmood, it's escalating up the BBC news at the present:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
'Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is restricting one of her minister's access to government documents, in an escalation of a row over a newspaper column...But her request for the prime minister to sack him has not yet been heeded, and a Downing Street spokesman said the prime minister was "taking advice".' | |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 13:41 - Jun 26 with 947 views | positivity |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 13:10 - Jun 26 by WeWereZombies |
I think, if he is looking at attracting 'Reform' voters back to Labour he will back Mahmood, it's escalating up the BBC news at the present:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
'Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is restricting one of her minister's access to government documents, in an escalation of a row over a newspaper column...But her request for the prime minister to sack him has not yet been heeded, and a Downing Street spokesman said the prime minister was "taking advice".' |
we'll see, he had to head off reform in makerfield, he may see things differently in power.
don't get the impression that mahmood is very popular in the labour party or the country, so he won't be irrevocably tied to her. | |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 13:43 - Jun 26 with 942 views | jasondozzell |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:09 - Jun 26 with 861 views | WeWereZombies |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 13:43 - Jun 26 by jasondozzell |
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Well thank you, that's very measured and sober. Addresses the issue and takes all perspectives into account to give a viewpoint that solves things just like that... | |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:15 - Jun 26 with 813 views | lowhouseblue |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 12:55 - Jun 26 by positivity |
'broad thrust' allows him to agree with starmer on this if he chooses.
hope he does as the care sector would collapse without immigration |
you realise that once someone has leave to remain the condition that they work in care sector can no longer hold? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:18 - Jun 26 with 807 views | jasondozzell |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:09 - Jun 26 by WeWereZombies |
Well thank you, that's very measured and sober. Addresses the issue and takes all perspectives into account to give a viewpoint that solves things just like that... |
Cheers
Do you think it's good that Josh Simons (the crimes guy) is up to his neck in this then?
My top tip is Dunty is the most ignorant man in Christendom, so usually taking the opposite stance to him will find you being proven correct. [Post edited 26 Jun 14:19]
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:25 - Jun 26 with 758 views | WeWereZombies |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:18 - Jun 26 by jasondozzell |
Cheers
Do you think it's good that Josh Simons (the crimes guy) is up to his neck in this then?
My top tip is Dunty is the most ignorant man in Christendom, so usually taking the opposite stance to him will find you being proven correct. [Post edited 26 Jun 14:19]
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Fine, I don't have time to read Ian Dunt so can't comment. Simons wasn't really anything to do with the issue in question, was he ? And hasn't been found guilty of anything, but hey ho, let's go the Trump playbook way and smear someone as much as we can if it suits the purpose of deflecting the issue, shall we ? [Post edited 26 Jun 16:28]
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:26 - Jun 26 with 751 views | J2BLUE |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 12:55 - Jun 26 by positivity |
'broad thrust' allows him to agree with starmer on this if he chooses.
hope he does as the care sector would collapse without immigration |
It sounds like the exact sort of coached nonsense ambiguous term his team will have told him to say. |  | | |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:46 - Jun 26 with 681 views | jasondozzell |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:25 - Jun 26 by WeWereZombies |
Fine, I don't have time to read Ian Dunt so can't comment. Simons wasn't really anything to do with the issue in question, was he ? And hasn't been found guilty of anything, but hey ho, let's go the Trump playbook way and smear someone as much as we can if it suits the purpose of deflecting the issue, shall we ? [Post edited 26 Jun 16:28]
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As rodent puts it
Is there anything suspect about the prominent role of The Crimes Guy, who got busted for snooping on Times reporters and trying to shop them to the security services in order to kill a story about a huge undeclared bung his mates used to wage a secret war against their party 🤷🏼♂️ | | | |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:55 - Jun 26 with 649 views | positivity |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:26 - Jun 26 by J2BLUE |
It sounds like the exact sort of coached nonsense ambiguous term his team will have told him to say. |
yes, leaves your options open.
wise in this case, but hope he is "team kier", as wwz puts it, on this one when the decision has to be made | |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 15:06 - Jun 26 with 631 views | WD19 |
A Corbynista, a Blairite and a Brownite walk into a bar......
"Hello Andy" says the barman. |  | | |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 16:30 - Jun 26 with 523 views | WeWereZombies |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 14:46 - Jun 26 by jasondozzell |
As rodent puts it
Is there anything suspect about the prominent role of The Crimes Guy, who got busted for snooping on Times reporters and trying to shop them to the security services in order to kill a story about a huge undeclared bung his mates used to wage a secret war against their party 🤷🏼♂️ |
I don't know how Ian Dunt is feeling about it but James Patterson might be looking over his shoulder worried about his publishing contract being reviewed... | |
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| An early test for Andy Burnham on 16:55 - Jun 26 with 464 views | jasondozzell |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 16:30 - Jun 26 by WeWereZombies |
I don't know how Ian Dunt is feeling about it but James Patterson might be looking over his shoulder worried about his publishing contract being reviewed... |
Dunty doesn't really have thoughts in his head, just a few empty crisp packets blowing in the breeze...
But stylistic preferences of your intellectual ls aside, what about the substance of the matter?
Is it good that a guy who was up to this is central to the incoming PM's project and is going to be rewarded for it? | | | |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 21:42 - Jun 26 with 285 views | WeWereZombies |
| An early test for Andy Burnham on 16:55 - Jun 26 by jasondozzell |
Dunty doesn't really have thoughts in his head, just a few empty crisp packets blowing in the breeze...
But stylistic preferences of your intellectual ls aside, what about the substance of the matter?
Is it good that a guy who was up to this is central to the incoming PM's project and is going to be rewarded for it? |
There are a few suppositions there to unpick, and probably a whole lot more of Burnham's associates, team, fellow MPs...and people he walked past in the street you are not going to like. But all I am really interested in is having a Labour Prime Minister who pushes an acceptable Labour Party agenda, and can win the next General Election. And if he rejuvenates Scottish Labour along the way then it will be even better. | |
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