| dimwits on 15:10 - Jul 17 with 274 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| dimwits on 14:57 - Jul 17 by Rsj13 |
In the same way that you didn't respond to the main point I was making. And it might be shorthand, but it does seem dismissive of what was being done, which was abhorrent.
We have had murders of politicians across the political spectrum in recent years. Anything that promotes anything close to that has absolutely zero place in society and if you're close to it you should be called out.
We should do a lot more to call out Reform Councillors who get close to bad right wing protests as well. But that doesn't mean that this shouldn't also be called out, either. Another poster called me out for comparing apples and pears (Councillors Vs Farage), and they're absolutely spot on there, that was clumsy and wrong of me.
I don't think that's a particularly controversial take. |
You were saying "well they would say that". I simply pointed out that "If the Green councillors were present during the dart thing there would probably be pictures of it." That's a reasonable response to your point.
Again, no-one has diminished what happened, and I wasn't doing so either. I was just trying to get to the point given everyone knows what happened. But I've spent longer explaining that to you than if I'd gone into the full detail everyone already knew!
I say again, a weird response. You've picked on absolutely nothing. |  |
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| dimwits on 15:59 - Jul 17 with 222 views | NthQldITFC |
| dimwits on 09:39 - Jul 17 by Rsj13 |
Normally agree with most of what you say, but on this occasion I may have to respectfully disagree.
Without being too sceptical, I think all parties would say something along the lines of "our guys had left before things turned bad", regardless of if this was true, but they were confident they could get away with saying it. And the Green's statement was fundamentally about "supporting the trans community", which whilst naturally important, I would say that when - once something like this has happened - the topic of the protest is somewhat irrelevant. There was a protest that incited violence against a politician, and they need to own up to the mistake. There should have been proper due diligence done on the previous activities of the group arranging the protest, and if there was any indication that this was going to happen, they should have steered clear. (for the record, not saying this was or wasn't done, or there was previous evidence, I do not know about about that part.)
If the shoe were on the other foot, and Farage was at a protest, and then after he left it turned nasty, then it would be front page news, as it absolutely should.
There is absolutely no place for anything like this. We are currently investigating yet another murder of a politician in this country. There have been more in the last 10 years than the previous 50, and anything that normalises or promotes violence towards politicians needs to be eradicated immediately. |
I'm only going by that article to be honest, but if they're truthful when they say they'd left before it happened - even if they only left when/if they were aware it happened - I don't see how they can be held in the slightest bit responsible. I'd say the same if it was Farage.
The world's gone stark raving mad if we're holding people responsible for only being a few minutes away from potential proximity to something that kicks off at a march which is about supporting a persecuted minority! Either that or it's anti-Green propaganda. |  |
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