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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax 11:38 - Jan 12 with 593 viewshomer_123

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55631693

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:41 - Jan 12 with 567 viewsStokieBlue

People who think that aren't going to be persuaded by something like massive excess deaths.

Some good stuff around then figures in this thread and some Tweets that other posters have highlighted.

UK excess deaths data for 2020 by StokieBlue 6 Jan 2021 23:32
Hopefully this will finally put to bed the few people who still claim it's been no different to any other year, the NHS is always stretched and the flu kills lots of people every year.

The main points are below and the thread and please remember this was all whilst having unprecedented restrictions to try and curb C19.

- The first 3 months of 2020 were below the 5 year average for excess deaths.
- 73,000 excess deaths, 14% above the 5 year average and the worst in 100 years
- More excess deaths than in 1951, the year of a very major flu epidemic but no restrictions.
- Only one other year also topped 600,000 deaths - 1918 and the Spanish flu.

https://twitter.com/NickStripe_ONS/status/1346860617735532544

It's unbelievably important that the vaccine is being rolled out, there were over 1000 deaths today and there are over 31000 people in hospital with C19 and we probably aren't near the top of the peak from the new variant. It's unthinkable what would have happened if the virus had been able to run free with no restrictions at all.

Stay safe everyone, hopefully by the summer we will see the end of the tunnel.

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:41 - Jan 12 with 566 viewsSteve_M

Ed Conway gives a much better (worse!) analysis in this thread:



Article here:
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-pas

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:53 - Jan 12 with 524 viewsStokieBlue

People who aren't worried about Covid should also take note that 25% of the people in hospital now are under 55. It's a common thing for them to cite that it only affects older people on their last legs.

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:53 - Jan 12 with 522 viewsGuthrum

As I said in another thread on the subject, even the 5-year average they're comparing it against is somewhat inflated by a particularly bad Flu winter. Which actually makes the current figures look slightly less severe than they should.

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:57 - Jan 12 with 499 viewsjeera

Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:53 - Jan 12 by StokieBlue

People who aren't worried about Covid should also take note that 25% of the people in hospital now are under 55. It's a common thing for them to cite that it only affects older people on their last legs.

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And as though they are somehow expendable anyway.

That's what grates the most.

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Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 15:06 - Jan 12 with 377 viewsBlueBadger

Just in case anyone still thinks Covid is a hoax on 11:57 - Jan 12 by jeera

And as though they are somehow expendable anyway.

That's what grates the most.


I think that's the most disgusting part of it all. Pretty much every single one of these people had loved ones who wanted to be with them and a sizeable majority of them died alone, surrounded by faceless strangers.

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