| French authorities climbing down... 09:42 - Jun 28 with 1245 views | bluelagos |
It's taken 4 weeks but the French minister has now publicly conceded the blame for the widespread lawlessness at the CL final at the Stade lies with local youths and that the authorities need to "make changes".
I suspect the French elections meant he was reluctant to concede the state failings publicly before. Anyhow, better late than never.
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| French authorities climbing down... on 09:47 - Jun 28 with 1194 views | STYG |
Like so much these days though, with fake news, a large percentage will just remember this final for the disgusting behaviour of ticketless Liverpool fans.
They won't have ever got to the bit where it was acknowledged to be a complete and utter lie. |  | | |
| French authorities climbing down... on 09:51 - Jun 28 with 1159 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 09:47 - Jun 28 by STYG |
Like so much these days though, with fake news, a large percentage will just remember this final for the disgusting behaviour of ticketless Liverpool fans.
They won't have ever got to the bit where it was acknowledged to be a complete and utter lie. |
It's not a new thing, though admittedly is more prevalent. I know seemingly intelligent people who still refuse to believe Hillsborough wasn't caused by Liverpool fans. |  |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 09:55 - Jun 28 with 1128 views | bluelagos |
| French authorities climbing down... on 09:51 - Jun 28 by Dyland |
It's not a new thing, though admittedly is more prevalent. I know seemingly intelligent people who still refuse to believe Hillsborough wasn't caused by Liverpool fans. |
You should ask them what evidence they have for that, and in the absence of any it is fair to then assume they are just prejudiced bigots and/or morons.
I always found that approach works. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 09:58 - Jun 28 with 1118 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 09:55 - Jun 28 by bluelagos |
You should ask them what evidence they have for that, and in the absence of any it is fair to then assume they are just prejudiced bigots and/or morons.
I always found that approach works. |
Oh I do Lagers. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 14:41 - Jun 28 with 838 views | jeera |
| French authorities climbing down... on 09:51 - Jun 28 by Dyland |
It's not a new thing, though admittedly is more prevalent. I know seemingly intelligent people who still refuse to believe Hillsborough wasn't caused by Liverpool fans. |
I've found often preceded by "I don't care what anyone says..." |  |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 14:43 - Jun 28 with 826 views | Keno |
A French surrender, surely not!! |  |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 14:52 - Jun 28 with 794 views | monytowbray |
| French authorities climbing down... on 14:43 - Jun 28 by Keno |
A French surrender, surely not!! |
They have more back bone and spine as a society than the Brits ever had. |  |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:02 - Jun 28 with 770 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 14:41 - Jun 28 by jeera |
I've found often preceded by "I don't care what anyone says..." |
Or, "I know this is a controversial view these days..."
Not really. It's just pig ignorant. And deeply offensive ffs, if not to me personally.
In my experience it's people in their sixties and seventies, with deep seated anti Scouser prejudices, and fook all interest in reading up on it. And not wrong 'uns or ignorant per se, I should add, which is kind of depressing. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:05 - Jun 28 with 760 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 14:52 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
They have more back bone and spine as a society than the Brits ever had. |
Well that's quite a generalisation dear chap.
For the record, I'm a big Francophile ;) | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:13 - Jun 28 with 733 views | monytowbray |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:05 - Jun 28 by Dyland |
Well that's quite a generalisation dear chap.
For the record, I'm a big Francophile ;) |
When capitalism or the government tries to f–k them they throw some flaming bins around.
Yet as Brits we think a stiff upper lip is a good quality.
Besides, if it wasn’t for the sea, radar and the Germans not calling out bluff during the Blitz we’d likely not have held our own. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:14 - Jun 28 with 729 views | Keno |
| French authorities climbing down... on 14:52 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
They have more back bone and spine as a society than the Brits ever had. |
Speaking as someone with French ancestry I'm not sure thats entirely true now, or has been in the past | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:21 - Jun 28 with 699 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:13 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
When capitalism or the government tries to f–k them they throw some flaming bins around.
Yet as Brits we think a stiff upper lip is a good quality.
Besides, if it wasn’t for the sea, radar and the Germans not calling out bluff during the Blitz we’d likely not have held our own. |
Thinking more in the context of (more backbone than the Brits) "ever had".
Not saying your overall sentiment about the French is wrong, mind. And no need for the last paragraph. The comment in the thread about surrendering was clearly a joke. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:21 - Jun 28 with 701 views | monytowbray |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:14 - Jun 28 by Keno |
Speaking as someone with French ancestry I'm not sure thats entirely true now, or has been in the past |
Most history is a lie. There are people here who believe the monarchy isn’t soaked in blood and racism! | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:26 - Jun 28 with 683 views | monytowbray |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:21 - Jun 28 by Dyland |
Thinking more in the context of (more backbone than the Brits) "ever had".
Not saying your overall sentiment about the French is wrong, mind. And no need for the last paragraph. The comment in the thread about surrendering was clearly a joke. |
Meh, joking aside it’s parroted by people who believe it. | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:27 - Jun 28 with 681 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:21 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
Most history is a lie. There are people here who believe the monarchy isn’t soaked in blood and racism! |
"Most history is a lie"
That's only true if you mean anything that anyone has ever written about past events. But I take the point that history is largely re-written, and often pushes a certain narrative that ignores or exaggerates or sure, makes things up.
There are many good historical accounts and researchers and writers ya know :) | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:27 - Jun 28 with 676 views | Keno |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:21 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
Most history is a lie. There are people here who believe the monarchy isn’t soaked in blood and racism! |
History isnt a lie as such, but rather a series of events of which recent history is memories recalled through the imperfect recollection of human experience of the people alive at the time those events happened and history beyond current lifetimes is an evolving interpretation of those imperfect recollections | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:30 - Jun 28 with 655 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:27 - Jun 28 by Keno |
History isnt a lie as such, but rather a series of events of which recent history is memories recalled through the imperfect recollection of human experience of the people alive at the time those events happened and history beyond current lifetimes is an evolving interpretation of those imperfect recollections |
Don't forget evidence Kenners, especially from archaeology, and forensics etc.
Unless we choose not to believe any of that....
Nothing is true, everything is possible. Yeh? | |
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| French authorities climbing down... on 15:39 - Jun 28 with 636 views | Keno |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:30 - Jun 28 by Dyland |
Don't forget evidence Kenners, especially from archaeology, and forensics etc.
Unless we choose not to believe any of that....
Nothing is true, everything is possible. Yeh? |
I thought I was being very eloquently profound there and then someone comes along and starts spoiling it saying stuff like 'evidence'!!
I like Time Team as much as the next man, assuming that the guy next two me is a boring as I am, but will all know that world started on October 23, 4004 BC
An Irish guy worked it all out | |
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| I don't disagree ba (n/t) on 15:41 - Jun 28 with 616 views | Dyland |
| French authorities climbing down... on 15:26 - Jun 28 by monytowbray |
Meh, joking aside it’s parroted by people who believe it. |
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