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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... 21:17 - Jul 26 with 1478 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

.....which is why so many bands and artists come from public school now.....
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 21:43 - Jul 26 with 1421 viewsEwan_Oozami

To paraphrase Cyril Connolly: “There is no more sombre enemy of good art than the working class oik in the hall.”

You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 21:59 - Jul 26 with 1387 viewsGlasgowBlue

Joe 'cough' Strummer.

Daddy was a diplomat
But he didn’t hurt nobody
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:54 - Jul 26 with 1336 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 21:59 - Jul 26 by GlasgowBlue

Joe 'cough' Strummer.

Daddy was a diplomat
But he didn’t hurt nobody
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Never did like them.....



"Why is it that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
Joe Strummer once said he cared,
But he never really gave a f#ck
Said he'd use the money he made
To set up a radio station to make the
Airwaves full of something more than Sh1t
Have you noticed we're still Waiting?"

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 10:16 - Jul 27 with 1230 viewsFacefacts

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 21:43 - Jul 26 by Ewan_Oozami

To paraphrase Cyril Connolly: “There is no more sombre enemy of good art than the working class oik in the hall.”


CC may have thought that, but he wrote ' than the pram in the hall '. To 'bowdlerise' rather than to 'paraphrase'?
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:03 - Jul 27 with 1152 viewsDJR

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:54 - Jul 26 by BanksterDebtSlave

Never did like them.....



"Why is it that Rock Stars
Always seem to lie so much?
Joe Strummer once said he cared,
But he never really gave a f#ck
Said he'd use the money he made
To set up a radio station to make the
Airwaves full of something more than Sh1t
Have you noticed we're still Waiting?"


I am not sure what axe John Lydon has to grind with Joe Strummer but I'll take Strummer's passion, optimism and integrity any time over Lydon's cynicism.

As it is, although the son of a diplomat, Strummer didn't achieve what he did because of his background, which he rejected, as evidenced by the fact that he became a squatter in the 70s. Indeed, his pre-Clash band the 101ers took their name from the number of his squat.

The Clash stuck to their principles by never appearing on Top of the Pops, which clearly limited their success And as regards their triple album Sandanisita, the band's wish to release the album at a low price for their fans was met with resistance by their record label, and they had to forgo any royalties on the first 200,000 copies sold in the UK and a 50% cut in royalties elsewhere.

And one of Joe Strummer's last performances before he died was a benefit gig for striking firefighters.

As a footnote, the Clash's London Calling album was voted best album of the 1980s by Rolling Stone magazine (although it was released in late 1979 in the UK, it was not released until 1980 in the US).
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:06 - Jul 27 with 1133 viewsDJR

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 21:59 - Jul 26 by GlasgowBlue

Joe 'cough' Strummer.

Daddy was a diplomat
But he didn’t hurt nobody
[Post edited 26 Jul 2023 22:17]


Very funny, but see what I said in the post above.
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:12 - Jul 27 with 1110 viewsEwan_Oozami

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 10:16 - Jul 27 by Facefacts

CC may have thought that, but he wrote ' than the pram in the hall '. To 'bowdlerise' rather than to 'paraphrase'?


That's a good point, 'paraphrase' wasn't the right word, but to 'bowdlerise' means to make less offensive, and I would say I made the phrase more offensive!

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:32 - Jul 27 with 1087 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:03 - Jul 27 by DJR

I am not sure what axe John Lydon has to grind with Joe Strummer but I'll take Strummer's passion, optimism and integrity any time over Lydon's cynicism.

As it is, although the son of a diplomat, Strummer didn't achieve what he did because of his background, which he rejected, as evidenced by the fact that he became a squatter in the 70s. Indeed, his pre-Clash band the 101ers took their name from the number of his squat.

The Clash stuck to their principles by never appearing on Top of the Pops, which clearly limited their success And as regards their triple album Sandanisita, the band's wish to release the album at a low price for their fans was met with resistance by their record label, and they had to forgo any royalties on the first 200,000 copies sold in the UK and a 50% cut in royalties elsewhere.

And one of Joe Strummer's last performances before he died was a benefit gig for striking firefighters.

As a footnote, the Clash's London Calling album was voted best album of the 1980s by Rolling Stone magazine (although it was released in late 1979 in the UK, it was not released until 1980 in the US).
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The song actually slates both of them. I'm not really sure what point GB was trying to make mind you.

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:40 - Jul 27 with 1076 viewsDJR

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:32 - Jul 27 by BanksterDebtSlave

The song actually slates both of them. I'm not really sure what point GB was trying to make mind you.


Sorry, I didn't listen to the song and thought it was by John Lydon because of the title.
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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 23:02 - Jul 27 with 1048 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 22:40 - Jul 27 by DJR

Sorry, I didn't listen to the song and thought it was by John Lydon because of the title.
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Death Church is perhaps the best punk album ever......infinitely better than London Calling.

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 23:33 - Jul 27 with 1032 viewsDubtractor

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 23:02 - Jul 27 by BanksterDebtSlave

Death Church is perhaps the best punk album ever......infinitely better than London Calling.


Do you know the band Bad Religion? American punk band, still going but had their purple patch in the late 80s/early 90s. Fairly political.



I don't need to be a global citizen
'Cause I'm blessed by nationality
I'm a member of a growing populace
We enforce our popularity
There are things that seem to pull us under, and
There are things that drag us down
But there's a power and a vital presence
That's lurking all around
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
He helped build the president's estate
I feel sorry for the Earth's population
'Cause so few live in the USA
At least the foreigners can copy our morality
They can visit, but they cannot stay
Only precious few can garner the prosperity
It makes us walk with renewed confidence
We've got a place to go when we die
And the architect resides right here
We've got the American Jesus (ah)
Bolstering national faith (ah, ah, ah)
We've got the American Jesus (ah, ah, ah)
Overwhelming millions every day (ah, ah)
He's the farmers' barren fields (in God)
The force the army wields (we trust)
The expression on the faces of the starving millions (because he's one of us)
The power of the man (break down)
The fuel that drives the Klan (cave in)
He's the motive and the conscience of the murderer (we can redeem your sin)
He's the preacher on TV (strong heart)
The false sincerity (clear mind)
The form letter that's written by the big computers (and infinitely kind)
The nuclear bombs (you lose)
The kids with no moms (we win)
And I'm fearful that he's inside me (he is our champion), yeah!
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate (we've got the American Jesus)
We've got the American Jesus
Exercising his authority
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith (we've got the American Jesus)
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day (ah ah ah), yeah!
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 06:51 - Jul 28 with 937 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 23:33 - Jul 27 by Dubtractor

Do you know the band Bad Religion? American punk band, still going but had their purple patch in the late 80s/early 90s. Fairly political.



I don't need to be a global citizen
'Cause I'm blessed by nationality
I'm a member of a growing populace
We enforce our popularity
There are things that seem to pull us under, and
There are things that drag us down
But there's a power and a vital presence
That's lurking all around
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate
We've got the American Jesus
He helped build the president's estate
I feel sorry for the Earth's population
'Cause so few live in the USA
At least the foreigners can copy our morality
They can visit, but they cannot stay
Only precious few can garner the prosperity
It makes us walk with renewed confidence
We've got a place to go when we die
And the architect resides right here
We've got the American Jesus (ah)
Bolstering national faith (ah, ah, ah)
We've got the American Jesus (ah, ah, ah)
Overwhelming millions every day (ah, ah)
He's the farmers' barren fields (in God)
The force the army wields (we trust)
The expression on the faces of the starving millions (because he's one of us)
The power of the man (break down)
The fuel that drives the Klan (cave in)
He's the motive and the conscience of the murderer (we can redeem your sin)
He's the preacher on TV (strong heart)
The false sincerity (clear mind)
The form letter that's written by the big computers (and infinitely kind)
The nuclear bombs (you lose)
The kids with no moms (we win)
And I'm fearful that he's inside me (he is our champion), yeah!
We've got the American Jesus
See him on the interstate (we've got the American Jesus)
We've got the American Jesus
Exercising his authority
We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith (we've got the American Jesus)
We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day (ah ah ah), yeah!
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God
One nation under God


Nope.

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Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 08:04 - Jul 28 with 880 viewsDJR

Creativity needs breathing space from the rat race...... on 23:02 - Jul 27 by BanksterDebtSlave

Death Church is perhaps the best punk album ever......infinitely better than London Calling.


I'll give it a listen, although I must admit I never got into the punk music of the 1980s and later (it being a bit too "heavy" for my liking), having been a great fan of what emerged in the period 1976-1980.

As it is, London Calling isn't really a true punk album, although it has huge elements of punk underlining it.

But as you might imagine from my avatar, the best two punk albums of all time, in my opinion, were the first two Ramones albums. Not only did they contain great music but they set the template for all that followed.
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