| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:52 - Jan 22 with 4161 views | GlasgowBlue |
Do you think Carillion should have been given state aid to give it an unfair adavantage over its competitors or should they have succeeded or failed on their own merits? |  |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:53 - Jan 22 with 4164 views | nrb1985 |
2 billion people in the emerging markets taken out of poverty, yeah that does make me feel proud. |  | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 09:47 - Jan 22 with 4124 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:53 - Jan 22 by nrb1985 |
2 billion people in the emerging markets taken out of poverty, yeah that does make me feel proud. |
Over to Banksy then........ "It's all gone quiet over there!" | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 10:12 - Jan 22 with 4105 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
I don’t know who Iain Mcwhirter is but he sounds like a complete c_nt |  | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 10:21 - Jan 22 with 4092 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:53 - Jan 22 by nrb1985 |
2 billion people in the emerging markets taken out of poverty, yeah that does make me feel proud. |
+ the murders,torture & damage done in South America by the Chicago school ?
Does that make you proud? | | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 10:25 - Jan 22 with 4088 views | StokieBlue |
"The founder of Amazon, Jeff Bezos, saw his wealth rise by $6bn (£4.3bn) in the first 10 days of 2017 as a result of a bull market on Wall Street, making him the world’s richest man."
How is this Bezos fault? He's not done anything over those 10 days, it's other people buying stock in his company and pushing the price up. Surely that's the fault of pension funds and such like?
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 10:26 - Jan 22 with 4087 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:52 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Do you think Carillion should have been given state aid to give it an unfair adavantage over its competitors or should they have succeeded or failed on their own merits? |
Given the difficulties Carilloin have been in for a number of years the real quaestoin is why were theye ven on the bid list for some of these contracts?
&, if the precautions the government claims were taken why have the partners not stepped up, used the Bank Guarantees, that the responsible parties should have ensured were in place, and continued the works?
Clearly more & more lies.
As with any other 'Client' Governemtn has a duty of care - in this case the taxpayer and it has obviously failed to exercise that duty of care. | | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 11:42 - Jan 22 with 4040 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 09:47 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Over to Banksy then........ "It's all gone quiet over there!" |
Hospital appointments and manual work are not condusive to typing. We don't all have "dogs" to "bark" for us! I am in between the two now. You however despite your busy social life were able to selectively respond to people you could easily dismiss and/or agree with despite your schedule. Laterz, I have some calloused hands to tend to ! |  |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 18:24 - Jan 22 with 3941 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 08:53 - Jan 22 by nrb1985 |
2 billion people in the emerging markets taken out of poverty, yeah that does make me feel proud. |
I fail to see how placing people a few cents above the destitute line into the very poor bracket can be considered a success, especially when it comes at the price of having your nations resources stolen by multinationals and your environment destroyed.
As somebody not emotionally wedded to Capitalism (Stockholm syndrome) and no 'skin in the game' it amazes me that people can read links like the above and seek to defend the system leading to these gross inequalities.
I do not claim to have all of the answers nor seek to get people to adopt my world view, I do however know when something fails the sniff test and is plain wrong. So, no it does not, and will never, make me proud.
The Emperor has no clothes ! | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:31 - Jan 22 with 3907 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 11:42 - Jan 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hospital appointments and manual work are not condusive to typing. We don't all have "dogs" to "bark" for us! I am in between the two now. You however despite your busy social life were able to selectively respond to people you could easily dismiss and/or agree with despite your schedule. Laterz, I have some calloused hands to tend to ! |
I didn't selectively answer anyone. I have BTR on ignore and you only copied and pasted his comments, which weren't directed to me anyway, some ninety minutes after I had posted.
My comment to you about going quiet was obviously tongue in cheek and was a word for word copy of your post from that evening. I'd have thought you'd have appreciated the humour. Although you anarchists are not known for being a particularly joyous bunch. Or are you the unacceptable face of capitalism now, in view of recent developments? | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:33 - Jan 22 with 3906 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 18:24 - Jan 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I fail to see how placing people a few cents above the destitute line into the very poor bracket can be considered a success, especially when it comes at the price of having your nations resources stolen by multinationals and your environment destroyed.
As somebody not emotionally wedded to Capitalism (Stockholm syndrome) and no 'skin in the game' it amazes me that people can read links like the above and seek to defend the system leading to these gross inequalities.
I do not claim to have all of the answers nor seek to get people to adopt my world view, I do however know when something fails the sniff test and is plain wrong. So, no it does not, and will never, make me proud.
The Emperor has no clothes ! |
"As somebody not emotionally wedded to Capitalism"
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:36 - Jan 22 with 3903 views | StokieBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 18:24 - Jan 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I fail to see how placing people a few cents above the destitute line into the very poor bracket can be considered a success, especially when it comes at the price of having your nations resources stolen by multinationals and your environment destroyed.
As somebody not emotionally wedded to Capitalism (Stockholm syndrome) and no 'skin in the game' it amazes me that people can read links like the above and seek to defend the system leading to these gross inequalities.
I do not claim to have all of the answers nor seek to get people to adopt my world view, I do however know when something fails the sniff test and is plain wrong. So, no it does not, and will never, make me proud.
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Can you propose a better one which has been proven more successful for the masses?
The gap between rich and poor is huge but everyone is acting like this is something new. In the 19th century the gap was even larger with personal fortunes well above 500bn in today's money and the lower end in total abject poverty. Not saying either is right, just saying it's not a new thing like the articles seem to want people to believe.
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 20:19 - Jan 22 with 3884 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:33 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
"As somebody not emotionally wedded to Capitalism"
Unless it benefits you personally |
If you are on about that 40p/hour top up to my wages then that probably ends up going to various charities over the course of a year. Actually make that 20p as the other half is Mrs Slave's. (Market rate would require an extra £6/8)
Now, care to publish your tax returns ?
Funny how 'your sort' always eventually resort to trying to pick holes in 'people like me' for our failing to live 'perfectly' in an imperfect world. At least some of us try to be true to ourselves rather than pretending it's ok to be a bit sociopathic because it's the "real world" and "what can you do?" ! | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 20:30 - Jan 22 with 3874 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:36 - Jan 22 by StokieBlue |
Can you propose a better one which has been proven more successful for the masses?
The gap between rich and poor is huge but everyone is acting like this is something new. In the 19th century the gap was even larger with personal fortunes well above 500bn in today's money and the lower end in total abject poverty. Not saying either is right, just saying it's not a new thing like the articles seem to want people to believe.
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History teaches us that those in power cling to it and there has been no golden age that I am aware of. Maybe there is just a fundamental problem with the direction of travel that our "betters" have been allowed to take us in. Maybe the new paradigm should be to live in balance rather than pretending that economies can grow forever on a finite planet.
Stopping and then reversing the juggernaut presents innumerable difficulties to say the least and we are probably fooked. This awareness is probably why I have had low moments in my life but for the life of me I can not pretend it is otherwise. Life has become a matter of trying, as best as possible, not to add to the carnage. | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 20:32 - Jan 22 with 3871 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 19:36 - Jan 22 by StokieBlue |
Can you propose a better one which has been proven more successful for the masses?
The gap between rich and poor is huge but everyone is acting like this is something new. In the 19th century the gap was even larger with personal fortunes well above 500bn in today's money and the lower end in total abject poverty. Not saying either is right, just saying it's not a new thing like the articles seem to want people to believe.
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The 60's & 70's were pretty good for the masses (the 50's in Europe also).
Since the '86 big bang things haven't been so good in the UK or USA the latter seeing Trump take advantage of the post Reagan era slide in American fortunes.
Post 80's capitalism has not been kind to the masses on the African continent which is why they all want to get to Europe.
Paul Mason has some interesting views on the demise of capitalism yopu may find interesting.
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:01 - Jan 22 with 3832 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 20:58 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Where have you made your tax returns public? FYI I’m not pontificating about how evil the capitalist system works so reserve the right to keep my financial affairs private. |
Unless we look at what you pay yourself - on Co House website? | | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:12 - Jan 22 with 3821 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 20:58 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Where have you made your tax returns public? FYI I’m not pontificating about how evil the capitalist system works so reserve the right to keep my financial affairs private. |
I don't earn enough to pay any and have been assuming your comments in this thread about me benefitting from capitalism is a reference to my disclosure of receiving tax credits which you seemed to delight in on a previous thread. Am I wrong ?Or does this simply fall under the benefit scrounger category ?
Edit "Don't it make you proud" ........... equals "pontificating".....To coin a phrase ..."Arf!"
Edit2....and you think I can't spot a joke ! [Post edited 22 Jan 2018 21:16]
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:19 - Jan 22 with 3804 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:12 - Jan 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I don't earn enough to pay any and have been assuming your comments in this thread about me benefitting from capitalism is a reference to my disclosure of receiving tax credits which you seemed to delight in on a previous thread. Am I wrong ?Or does this simply fall under the benefit scrounger category ?
Edit "Don't it make you proud" ........... equals "pontificating".....To coin a phrase ..."Arf!"
Edit2....and you think I can't spot a joke ! [Post edited 22 Jan 2018 21:16]
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This isn’t your first thread about the evils of capitalism. You potificate about it in the same way you may say I pontificate about the danger if Corbynism.
What do you suggest we replace it with and would the huge strides made in refusing global poverty be reversed if we “smashed the system”?
Don’t bring me problems. Bring me solutions.
Edit. Stop bloody editing your replies after I've replied :-)
Re Tax credits. I don't begrudge anyone a single penny of benefits or help they are entitled to. It was the fact that you said you charge well below the market rate and do so because you are subsidised by the tax payer. I applaud you mate. It's a smart tactic. Undercut your competitors and put them out of business. That leaves you with a monopoly and you can then charge double your rate as you are then the only game in town*. I'm proud of ya Banksy. Cool, calm and ruthless.
*For the benefit of doubt this is a joke. I know you are not really doing this. :-) [Post edited 22 Jan 2018 21:51]
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:40 - Jan 22 with 3789 views | BloomBlue |
Capitalism will never die especially with the younger generation. The life of the young is driven by capitalism, companies like Amazon, Google and Apple drive everything, can you imagine the outcry of the young if those companies didn't exist.
While nationalised industries had their day in the 60/70's they all cost the tax payer millions and produce cr$p, British Leyland was the perfect example |  | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 22:03 - Jan 22 with 3765 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 21:40 - Jan 22 by BloomBlue |
Capitalism will never die especially with the younger generation. The life of the young is driven by capitalism, companies like Amazon, Google and Apple drive everything, can you imagine the outcry of the young if those companies didn't exist.
While nationalised industries had their day in the 60/70's they all cost the tax payer millions and produce cr$p, British Leyland was the perfect example |
But will the younger generation be prepared to live in perpetual debt? | | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 22:06 - Jan 22 with 3756 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 22:03 - Jan 22 by No9 |
But will the younger generation be prepared to live in perpetual debt? |
We all will if Corbyn ever gets in. | |
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| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 06:55 - Jan 23 with 3681 views | BloomBlue |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 22:03 - Jan 22 by No9 |
But will the younger generation be prepared to live in perpetual debt? |
Unfortuately if they think nationalism will remove the debt they're in for a horrible shock. | | | |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 07:56 - Jan 23 with 3650 views | No9 |
| Death throes of Capitalism part x on 06:55 - Jan 23 by BloomBlue |
Unfortuately if they think nationalism will remove the debt they're in for a horrible shock. |
We have mass nationalisation in the UK at the moment.
But it is all from non UK governments. | | | |
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