Because you've not been doing your job for years 11:42 - Apr 26 with 656 views | Darth_Koont | Politicians can play the game - it's sort of accepted that's their job. But the media's job is meant to be the exact opposite of that. And they've not just been cheering from the sidelines but frequently getting in the starting XI. |  |
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Because you've not been doing your job for years on 12:02 - Apr 26 with 600 views | BloomBlue | But most of the time they're only acting on what people want without checking facts. Preston can retweet a tweet and everyone jumps on it and then Preston starts back tracking, journalists dont check facts. If everyone didn't jump on it he wouldn't just retweet. But not singling out Preston as they all do it, the trouble in this country is most articles are driven by their political beliefs, far less of that from what I've seen in other counties. So journalists wheel out scientist # to fit into their side of the arguement, rather than taking a balanced view and the internet only makes it worse. Using an expression I've seen you use before on here 'cry wolf too often' and lots of people stop trusting you. Media whether paper or TV have turned into those silly glossy gossip mags, but if circulation goes up when they do you cannot put all the blame on them. |  | |  |
Because you've not been doing your job for years on 13:23 - Apr 26 with 545 views | Darth_Koont |
Because you've not been doing your job for years on 12:02 - Apr 26 by BloomBlue | But most of the time they're only acting on what people want without checking facts. Preston can retweet a tweet and everyone jumps on it and then Preston starts back tracking, journalists dont check facts. If everyone didn't jump on it he wouldn't just retweet. But not singling out Preston as they all do it, the trouble in this country is most articles are driven by their political beliefs, far less of that from what I've seen in other counties. So journalists wheel out scientist # to fit into their side of the arguement, rather than taking a balanced view and the internet only makes it worse. Using an expression I've seen you use before on here 'cry wolf too often' and lots of people stop trusting you. Media whether paper or TV have turned into those silly glossy gossip mags, but if circulation goes up when they do you cannot put all the blame on them. |
'Course you can put the blame on them. Their job isn't to feed the ignorance — and feed off it. Unless you think the most important thing is for the media to make money and that's the only standard that matters. There's a quid pro quo here. Journalists have been given respect, legal protection and priveleged access. With that comes responsibility and some ethics ... they can't just turn around and say that it's actually all about whatever suits them, their readers and their owners. |  |
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Because you've not been doing your job for years on 13:30 - Apr 26 with 538 views | Guthrum | A lot of (especially television) journalists are extremely poor at asking the right questions. They either go after something meaningless, or they ask a question with no answer, or it is simply ignorant of practical reality (often demanding pie-in-the-sky perfection). Too often then backed up by a pseudo-Paxman repetitive demanding of an answer when one has been given. There's no forensic finesse, exploring a situation and opening it up (tho broadcast time-constraints do not help in that). Teasing answers out of interview subjects, rather than trying to batter them into submission. Or, worse, simply talking over them. Newspaper journalists - presumably due to budget cuts - too often do not understand what they are writing about. Particularly on subjects which are technical or have a complex background. To the extent that five miutes spent on Wikipedia before starting to type would lead to a vast improvement. |  |
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Because you've not been doing your job for years on 13:34 - Apr 26 with 521 views | Pecker |
Because you've not been doing your job for years on 12:02 - Apr 26 by BloomBlue | But most of the time they're only acting on what people want without checking facts. Preston can retweet a tweet and everyone jumps on it and then Preston starts back tracking, journalists dont check facts. If everyone didn't jump on it he wouldn't just retweet. But not singling out Preston as they all do it, the trouble in this country is most articles are driven by their political beliefs, far less of that from what I've seen in other counties. So journalists wheel out scientist # to fit into their side of the arguement, rather than taking a balanced view and the internet only makes it worse. Using an expression I've seen you use before on here 'cry wolf too often' and lots of people stop trusting you. Media whether paper or TV have turned into those silly glossy gossip mags, but if circulation goes up when they do you cannot put all the blame on them. |
Sounds a bit like on here. |  | |  |
Because you've not been doing your job for years on 13:42 - Apr 26 with 508 views | Darth_Koont |
Because you've not been doing your job for years on 13:30 - Apr 26 by Guthrum | A lot of (especially television) journalists are extremely poor at asking the right questions. They either go after something meaningless, or they ask a question with no answer, or it is simply ignorant of practical reality (often demanding pie-in-the-sky perfection). Too often then backed up by a pseudo-Paxman repetitive demanding of an answer when one has been given. There's no forensic finesse, exploring a situation and opening it up (tho broadcast time-constraints do not help in that). Teasing answers out of interview subjects, rather than trying to batter them into submission. Or, worse, simply talking over them. Newspaper journalists - presumably due to budget cuts - too often do not understand what they are writing about. Particularly on subjects which are technical or have a complex background. To the extent that five miutes spent on Wikipedia before starting to type would lead to a vast improvement. |
Well said. Quantity over quality certainly seems to be the main problem. And in the battle to produce relatively cheap content that can fill their various channels, it also means that they can't risk being denied access or being denied their insider "scoop" that's been neatly packaged for them. |  |
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Because you've not been doing your job for years on 15:16 - Apr 26 with 447 views | Churchman | I am very much in the don’t trust camp from personal experience of seeing them in action, as expressed in other posts. It’s all about the story whether it’s accurate, built on a nugget of information or just a rumour. When somebody is in their sights, they are relentless and that can drastically affect people’s perceptions. There are plenty of recent examples of that. Freedom of the press, like freedom of speech, is something to be protected and cherished. But with that comes a responsibility, particularly to be balanced and accurate in their reporting and not make stories fit their agenda. There is plenty of room for opinions and a wide selection of views. The wider the better. |  | |  |
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