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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic 14:36 - Jun 7 with 1193 viewsgainsboroughblue

That West Indies side was what made me fall in love with cricket.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/cricket/52941071

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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 22:56 - Jun 8 with 1101 viewsCoastalblue

Have you seen 'Fire In Babylon' the documentary film anout West Indies cricket? If not you're in for a treat, it's fantastic, I own it on Blu Ray and watch it probably several times a year.

I'm assuming you're of a similar vintage to me, growing up when West Indian quicks ruled the world and West Indian batsman nonchalantly smashed bowlers around, this has all of those memories, all of that nostalgia distilled down.

No idea when I began here, was a very long time ago. Previously known as Spirit_of_81. Love cheese, hate the colour of it, this is why it requires some blue in it.
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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:08 - Jun 8 with 1093 viewsgainsboroughblue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 22:56 - Jun 8 by Coastalblue

Have you seen 'Fire In Babylon' the documentary film anout West Indies cricket? If not you're in for a treat, it's fantastic, I own it on Blu Ray and watch it probably several times a year.

I'm assuming you're of a similar vintage to me, growing up when West Indian quicks ruled the world and West Indian batsman nonchalantly smashed bowlers around, this has all of those memories, all of that nostalgia distilled down.


I'll look out for it, but more likely to see if it appears on Amazon Prime or similar. The whole side was immensely watchable. No weak link at all either. That '84 tour saw many a hit on the head and a broken bone. Just savage.

Difficult not to feel sorry for Gower, you don't expect to declare over 300 ahead on the last day of a test and lose by 9 wickets.

The tour down there in 85-86 was just as bad. That was when Gatting had his face rearranged by Patrick Patterson.

Gordon Greenidge was actually qualified to play for England prior to Windies debut. What a partnership that could have been with Goochie.
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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:31 - Jun 8 with 1070 viewsCoastalblue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:08 - Jun 8 by gainsboroughblue

I'll look out for it, but more likely to see if it appears on Amazon Prime or similar. The whole side was immensely watchable. No weak link at all either. That '84 tour saw many a hit on the head and a broken bone. Just savage.

Difficult not to feel sorry for Gower, you don't expect to declare over 300 ahead on the last day of a test and lose by 9 wickets.

The tour down there in 85-86 was just as bad. That was when Gatting had his face rearranged by Patrick Patterson.

Gordon Greenidge was actually qualified to play for England prior to Windies debut. What a partnership that could have been with Goochie.
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Can't see it available anywhere for free, but while I would never think about spending anybody elses money, you can buy it on Amazon for a fiver and personally I think it's well worth that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fire-Babylon-Viv-Richards/dp/B07XLVP3V5/ref=sr_1_1?dchi

Have you watched 'The Edge'? I think that's available on Netflix and is far more enjoyable than I actually expected. No Fire In Bablylon though.

No idea when I began here, was a very long time ago. Previously known as Spirit_of_81. Love cheese, hate the colour of it, this is why it requires some blue in it.
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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:42 - Jun 8 with 1061 viewsgainsboroughblue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:31 - Jun 8 by Coastalblue

Can't see it available anywhere for free, but while I would never think about spending anybody elses money, you can buy it on Amazon for a fiver and personally I think it's well worth that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fire-Babylon-Viv-Richards/dp/B07XLVP3V5/ref=sr_1_1?dchi

Have you watched 'The Edge'? I think that's available on Netflix and is far more enjoyable than I actually expected. No Fire In Bablylon though.


Yep. I've seen 'The Edge'. That was a good watch, as was the Aussie documentary, name of which eludes me right now.

Really missing test cricket right now, probably more so than the football.

Thanks for the link.

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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:45 - Jun 8 with 1058 viewsEnigma_Blue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:08 - Jun 8 by gainsboroughblue

I'll look out for it, but more likely to see if it appears on Amazon Prime or similar. The whole side was immensely watchable. No weak link at all either. That '84 tour saw many a hit on the head and a broken bone. Just savage.

Difficult not to feel sorry for Gower, you don't expect to declare over 300 ahead on the last day of a test and lose by 9 wickets.

The tour down there in 85-86 was just as bad. That was when Gatting had his face rearranged by Patrick Patterson.

Gordon Greenidge was actually qualified to play for England prior to Windies debut. What a partnership that could have been with Goochie.
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It's hard to believe they were that good when you look at how Mediocre they are now.
They produced so many good fast bowlers from the mid 70s through to the 90s but they haven't had any truly great fast bowlers since Walsh & Ambrose retired.
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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 09:39 - Jun 9 with 972 viewsSharkey

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 22:56 - Jun 8 by Coastalblue

Have you seen 'Fire In Babylon' the documentary film anout West Indies cricket? If not you're in for a treat, it's fantastic, I own it on Blu Ray and watch it probably several times a year.

I'm assuming you're of a similar vintage to me, growing up when West Indian quicks ruled the world and West Indian batsman nonchalantly smashed bowlers around, this has all of those memories, all of that nostalgia distilled down.


Overall I was a bit disappointed with this film - not that it was bad but because I expected more. And some of what the players said didn't quite tie with what I'd seen on the county circuit, where people like Malcolm Marshall and Robin Smith were clearly good friends.

But what I do remember as very moving was the sad figure of David Murray- He lost his place in the West Indies team, couldn't get it back, and then went on the rebel tour to South Africa. He seemed to be more ostracized for this than any of the other players who did the same thing. Maybe in Barbados it was more of a big deal than in the other islands. I don't think I've ever seen an interview with a sadder, more lonely man. (And Geoff Boycott of course helped organise a similar tour, a eventually got a knighthood.)
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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 10:45 - Jun 9 with 948 viewsRadlett_blue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 23:08 - Jun 8 by gainsboroughblue

I'll look out for it, but more likely to see if it appears on Amazon Prime or similar. The whole side was immensely watchable. No weak link at all either. That '84 tour saw many a hit on the head and a broken bone. Just savage.

Difficult not to feel sorry for Gower, you don't expect to declare over 300 ahead on the last day of a test and lose by 9 wickets.

The tour down there in 85-86 was just as bad. That was when Gatting had his face rearranged by Patrick Patterson.

Gordon Greenidge was actually qualified to play for England prior to Windies debut. What a partnership that could have been with Goochie.
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Point of order - Gatting's nose was re-arranged by Malcolm Marshall. The fileders apparently had to pick bits of his nose from the ball before play resumed. I think when Gatting returned to England, a reporter asked him "Where exactly did the ball hit you?"
84 at Lords was a strange game. I was there on the first day, which was cold & drizzly & England finished on 167-2 from reduced overs. On Saturday, Botham got the ball to swing prodigiously & took 8 wickets. On Monday evening England were 287-7 & looking to add quick runs before a declaration 7 the umpires offered the batsmen the light. Pringle wanted to continue; Lamb, who was 109*, thought Gower should make the call, but he was absent from the balcony, apparently watching Wimbledon on TV. Lamb decided to go off, to general booing & chuntering. As it turned out, it didn't make much difference as the ball had stopped swinging on the Tuesday & the pitch was flat & Greenidge took England to the cleaners.

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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 17:11 - Jun 9 with 885 viewsgainsboroughblue

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 10:45 - Jun 9 by Radlett_blue

Point of order - Gatting's nose was re-arranged by Malcolm Marshall. The fileders apparently had to pick bits of his nose from the ball before play resumed. I think when Gatting returned to England, a reporter asked him "Where exactly did the ball hit you?"
84 at Lords was a strange game. I was there on the first day, which was cold & drizzly & England finished on 167-2 from reduced overs. On Saturday, Botham got the ball to swing prodigiously & took 8 wickets. On Monday evening England were 287-7 & looking to add quick runs before a declaration 7 the umpires offered the batsmen the light. Pringle wanted to continue; Lamb, who was 109*, thought Gower should make the call, but he was absent from the balcony, apparently watching Wimbledon on TV. Lamb decided to go off, to general booing & chuntering. As it turned out, it didn't make much difference as the ball had stopped swinging on the Tuesday & the pitch was flat & Greenidge took England to the cleaners.


I've spent 35 years believing that to be Patterson.

Greenidge scored two double hundred that summer. He was immense.

In the final test, we had them at 70/6 or something lunch on the first day. Never seemed to matter though with that Windies attack, they would just roll you over regardless.

I can remember being in a state of shock coming back from an away day at Newcastle in 1990 and listening to Wayne Larkins knocking off the winning runs in the first test. We were still way behind them in terms of quality.

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On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 17:15 - Jun 9 with 878 viewsPJH

On iPlayer for the cricket enthusiastic on 22:56 - Jun 8 by Coastalblue

Have you seen 'Fire In Babylon' the documentary film anout West Indies cricket? If not you're in for a treat, it's fantastic, I own it on Blu Ray and watch it probably several times a year.

I'm assuming you're of a similar vintage to me, growing up when West Indian quicks ruled the world and West Indian batsman nonchalantly smashed bowlers around, this has all of those memories, all of that nostalgia distilled down.


I have downloaded it but not yet watched it but I do have the book of the same title written by Simon Lister, a great read.

I think the film preceded the book.
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