What an absolute burk. on 18:41 - Nov 10 with 1231 views | Nthsuffolkblue | Should have known better, but has resigned for it. |  |
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What an absolute burk. on 18:46 - Nov 10 with 1181 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
What an absolute burk. on 18:41 - Nov 10 by Nthsuffolkblue | Should have known better, but has resigned for it. |
If the Chairman thinks it, most probably others in the FA do as well. Total embarrassment. |  | |  |
What an absolute burk. on 19:01 - Nov 10 with 1140 views | Wallingford_Boy | It’s berk. As in Berkshire Hunt. |  |
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What an absolute burk. on 19:44 - Nov 10 with 1001 views | EastTownBlue |
What an absolute burk. on 19:01 - Nov 10 by Wallingford_Boy | It’s berk. As in Berkshire Hunt. |
Tom Hunt ? |  | |  |
What an absolute burk. on 19:45 - Nov 10 with 989 views | Wallingford_Boy |
What an absolute burk. on 19:44 - Nov 10 by EastTownBlue | Tom Hunt ? |
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What an absolute burk. on 19:45 - Nov 10 with 980 views | EastTownBlue |
I'm fully aware |  | |  |
What an absolute burk. on 19:54 - Nov 10 with 938 views | Durovigutum | I have some sympathy with him around the "coloured" comment. I often hear over 60s using that sort of language, as these were the terms they used when growing up - it's a bit like using the word Centigrade instead of Celsius, there is no malicious intent it is just what they are used to. Having sex with anyone (or thing) is a lifestyle choice but in the context of men's football I'd say there is still significant homophobia. I'm not sure that it's a football "problem", I still think a broad section of society is "uncomfortable" with the concept. The lazy racial stereotypes are rather hard to defend... Credit his decision to step down, you can't be the change if you don't understand why, or that, it's needed. |  | |  |
What an absolute burk. on 20:00 - Nov 10 with 903 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
What an absolute burk. on 19:54 - Nov 10 by Durovigutum | I have some sympathy with him around the "coloured" comment. I often hear over 60s using that sort of language, as these were the terms they used when growing up - it's a bit like using the word Centigrade instead of Celsius, there is no malicious intent it is just what they are used to. Having sex with anyone (or thing) is a lifestyle choice but in the context of men's football I'd say there is still significant homophobia. I'm not sure that it's a football "problem", I still think a broad section of society is "uncomfortable" with the concept. The lazy racial stereotypes are rather hard to defend... Credit his decision to step down, you can't be the change if you don't understand why, or that, it's needed. |
It is all his comments and the fact he had been warned before. Agree it isn't just a football thing, but the head of an association who are trying to change mindset, makes him a complete berk. (burk). |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
What an absolute burk. on 20:28 - Nov 10 with 858 views | BlueBadger |
What an absolute burk. on 19:54 - Nov 10 by Durovigutum | I have some sympathy with him around the "coloured" comment. I often hear over 60s using that sort of language, as these were the terms they used when growing up - it's a bit like using the word Centigrade instead of Celsius, there is no malicious intent it is just what they are used to. Having sex with anyone (or thing) is a lifestyle choice but in the context of men's football I'd say there is still significant homophobia. I'm not sure that it's a football "problem", I still think a broad section of society is "uncomfortable" with the concept. The lazy racial stereotypes are rather hard to defend... Credit his decision to step down, you can't be the change if you don't understand why, or that, it's needed. |
Bloke's nearly ten years younger than my dad. My dad cottoned on to the fact that 'coloured' wasn't acceptable any more some time around 1997 and he's a Suffolk bloke who's basically lived his whole life in the same village. If he can get his head round it, I'm pretty sure that the a bloke from Leicester who's chairman of an organisation representing a massively multicultural sport can. [Post edited 10 Nov 2020 20:30]
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What an absolute burk. on 20:54 - Nov 10 with 750 views | EastTownBlue | Is this the worst performance at a select committee since Amber Rudd ? |  | |  |
What an absolute burk. on 21:36 - Nov 10 with 679 views | Guthrum |
What an absolute burk. on 19:54 - Nov 10 by Durovigutum | I have some sympathy with him around the "coloured" comment. I often hear over 60s using that sort of language, as these were the terms they used when growing up - it's a bit like using the word Centigrade instead of Celsius, there is no malicious intent it is just what they are used to. Having sex with anyone (or thing) is a lifestyle choice but in the context of men's football I'd say there is still significant homophobia. I'm not sure that it's a football "problem", I still think a broad section of society is "uncomfortable" with the concept. The lazy racial stereotypes are rather hard to defend... Credit his decision to step down, you can't be the change if you don't understand why, or that, it's needed. |
Altho, as a public figure heading a significant national organisation*, he really ought to know better and pick his words more carefully when he speaks. * One for which racism, homophobia, etc., have been conscious issues for longer than most. |  |
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What an absolute burk. on 08:12 - Nov 11 with 550 views | Wicksy |
What an absolute burk. on 19:54 - Nov 10 by Durovigutum | I have some sympathy with him around the "coloured" comment. I often hear over 60s using that sort of language, as these were the terms they used when growing up - it's a bit like using the word Centigrade instead of Celsius, there is no malicious intent it is just what they are used to. Having sex with anyone (or thing) is a lifestyle choice but in the context of men's football I'd say there is still significant homophobia. I'm not sure that it's a football "problem", I still think a broad section of society is "uncomfortable" with the concept. The lazy racial stereotypes are rather hard to defend... Credit his decision to step down, you can't be the change if you don't understand why, or that, it's needed. |
Totally agree about age being a factor. I'm 64 and find it all a bit of a minefield tbh! I completely get that the gay remark and 'girlie goalkeeper' remarks were wrong but to lose your job for using the term 'coloured footballers' seems way OTT. This morning The Guardian refers to Kamala Harris as a 'woman of colour' Why is that acceptable but 'coloured footballers' isn't? Would 'footballers of colour' have been OK? I'm genuinely confused. |  |
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What an absolute burk. on 08:31 - Nov 11 with 505 views | WeWereZombies |
What an absolute burk. on 08:12 - Nov 11 by Wicksy | Totally agree about age being a factor. I'm 64 and find it all a bit of a minefield tbh! I completely get that the gay remark and 'girlie goalkeeper' remarks were wrong but to lose your job for using the term 'coloured footballers' seems way OTT. This morning The Guardian refers to Kamala Harris as a 'woman of colour' Why is that acceptable but 'coloured footballers' isn't? Would 'footballers of colour' have been OK? I'm genuinely confused. |
The use of 'coloured' can be a difficult one to pass judgement on, Benedict Cumberbatch got in trouble for it when he was 39.: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/jan/26/benedict-cumberbatch-apologises- One of the issues that should be borne in mind is how the term was used in apartheid South Africa as a way of grading (and degrading people), to that end I am a bit mystified why 'person of colour' is considered okay. So I tend to stick with black and white (and am then prepared to ask if anyone knows of anyone who is truly and completely black or white if challenged...), but I would avoid saying yellow or even oriental - despite having great difficulty in telling a Chinese (and that nation embraces a great many different looks) from a Japanese from a Korean from a Vietnamese. |  |
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