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Computer people...:. 07:49 - Feb 16 with 1251 viewsitfcjoe



Couple of people have told me I need to back up hard disk, and then replace.....

Is this easy, and can someone recommend a product - ideally from Argos so I can click and collect? Cheers
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Computer people...:. on 07:54 - Feb 16 with 1194 viewsWD19

Imminent failure. The story of every ITFC game day.
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Computer people...:. on 07:55 - Feb 16 with 1190 viewsDanTheMan

Basically what it says, your hard drive is about to fail. There's a few things hard drives do to tell the BIOS (essentially that screen you see there) their state. These are called SMART errors.

Happens to mechanical drives with age, much less likely with SSDs.

You'll need a new hard drive. Those other people are correct, easier thing here would be to back it up and replace it.

Not sure if Argos do hard drives but I can take a look. Do you know how "big" your current hard drive is? Replacing them is easy enough.
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Computer people...:. on 08:02 - Feb 16 with 1148 viewsitfcjoe

Computer people...:. on 07:55 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

Basically what it says, your hard drive is about to fail. There's a few things hard drives do to tell the BIOS (essentially that screen you see there) their state. These are called SMART errors.

Happens to mechanical drives with age, much less likely with SSDs.

You'll need a new hard drive. Those other people are correct, easier thing here would be to back it up and replace it.

Not sure if Argos do hard drives but I can take a look. Do you know how "big" your current hard drive is? Replacing them is easy enough.
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I’m not sure how big it is, but not much on it as most of it is in a Dropbox fortunately

Is the hard drive i back it up on then my new one, or do I need to back it up on something and then replace it with something else.....I.e. is there something that can get me sorted today in short term that I can grab from Argos, then order something more long term

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Computer people...:. on 08:08 - Feb 16 with 1120 viewsDanTheMan

Computer people...:. on 08:02 - Feb 16 by itfcjoe

I’m not sure how big it is, but not much on it as most of it is in a Dropbox fortunately

Is the hard drive i back it up on then my new one, or do I need to back it up on something and then replace it with something else.....I.e. is there something that can get me sorted today in short term that I can grab from Argos, then order something more long term


Depends what the failure is. The failure could mean a few files suddenly disappear to the drive just outright failing.

Your best bet is going to be getting as much off the machine as you can (put everything you want on to Dropbox) then buying a new drive, swapping out the old one, and reinstalling windows from scratch.

Looks like Argos do one. You'll probably want a 256GB one.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3132267

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Computer people...:. on 08:20 - Feb 16 with 1077 viewsStokieBlue

Computer people...:. on 08:08 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

Depends what the failure is. The failure could mean a few files suddenly disappear to the drive just outright failing.

Your best bet is going to be getting as much off the machine as you can (put everything you want on to Dropbox) then buying a new drive, swapping out the old one, and reinstalling windows from scratch.

Looks like Argos do one. You'll probably want a 256GB one.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3132267


If you get a Crucial SSD it comes with a very simple cloning tool whereby the existing HDD is cloned (including all registry settings) and then you can just swap out the old one for the SSD.

I picked up a 1TB one from Amazon for about 80 quid and shifted my old SATA HDD to a supplementary drive.

Possibly not the most economic way but if people aren't happy messing about then it's a fairly easy option. It obviously relies on being able to boot from the bios back into Windows.

SB
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Computer people...:. on 08:25 - Feb 16 with 1061 viewsDanTheMan

Computer people...:. on 08:20 - Feb 16 by StokieBlue

If you get a Crucial SSD it comes with a very simple cloning tool whereby the existing HDD is cloned (including all registry settings) and then you can just swap out the old one for the SSD.

I picked up a 1TB one from Amazon for about 80 quid and shifted my old SATA HDD to a supplementary drive.

Possibly not the most economic way but if people aren't happy messing about then it's a fairly easy option. It obviously relies on being able to boot from the bios back into Windows.

SB


That made me check, Samsung have something similar it seems.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/

Under data migration.

FAO Joe. If you can install the new hard drive I linked alongside the current one, you might be able to use the above tool (under data migration) to clone what's currently there, will save you having to do a full reinstall.

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Computer people...:. on 08:34 - Feb 16 with 1036 viewsStokieBlue

Computer people...:. on 08:25 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

That made me check, Samsung have something similar it seems.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/

Under data migration.

FAO Joe. If you can install the new hard drive I linked alongside the current one, you might be able to use the above tool (under data migration) to clone what's currently there, will save you having to do a full reinstall.


For the crucial one, you could copy it across to the new drive before you installed it in the casing using USB 3.

The Samsung one looks similar as you say so should work well and probably easier to get hold of on the day rather than waiting.

SB
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Computer people...:. on 08:35 - Feb 16 with 1035 viewsitfcjoe

Computer people...:. on 08:25 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

That made me check, Samsung have something similar it seems.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/

Under data migration.

FAO Joe. If you can install the new hard drive I linked alongside the current one, you might be able to use the above tool (under data migration) to clone what's currently there, will save you having to do a full reinstall.


Do I need to get one of those SATA cables for that? And also does it work with this product as this one is in stock in Argos locally whereas the Samsung isn't.....

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9312139?clickSR=slp:term:ssd:1:216:1

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Computer people...:. on 09:12 - Feb 16 with 953 viewsDanTheMan

Computer people...:. on 08:35 - Feb 16 by itfcjoe

Do I need to get one of those SATA cables for that? And also does it work with this product as this one is in stock in Argos locally whereas the Samsung isn't.....

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9312139?clickSR=slp:term:ssd:1:216:1


You might do, I don't know if it comes with one or not. If you can pick some up at the same time, that would be ideal.

Just a note though, PNY don't seem to have any available software for managing the migration, so you'll be DIYing it.

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Computer people...:. on 09:16 - Feb 16 with 936 viewsitfcjoe

Computer people...:. on 09:12 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

You might do, I don't know if it comes with one or not. If you can pick some up at the same time, that would be ideal.

Just a note though, PNY don't seem to have any available software for managing the migration, so you'll be DIYing it.


Ok, I'll go Samsung and wait until tomorrow for it to be delivered....

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Computer people...:. on 09:17 - Feb 16 with 932 viewsStokieBlue

Computer people...:. on 09:12 - Feb 16 by DanTheMan

You might do, I don't know if it comes with one or not. If you can pick some up at the same time, that would be ideal.

Just a note though, PNY don't seem to have any available software for managing the migration, so you'll be DIYing it.


There are freeware alternatives for home use although they might not be as polished as Crucial or Samsung:

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
https://www.ubackup.com/
https://www.easeus.com/download/tbf-download.html

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Computer people...:. on 09:23 - Feb 16 with 919 viewsitfcjoe

Computer people...:. on 08:34 - Feb 16 by StokieBlue

For the crucial one, you could copy it across to the new drive before you installed it in the casing using USB 3.

The Samsung one looks similar as you say so should work well and probably easier to get hold of on the day rather than waiting.

SB


Have you got a link for the crucial one as I can't get Samsung one delivered anytime soon so may as well go to Amazon (plus any required cables)
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Computer people...:. on 09:34 - Feb 16 with 887 viewsStokieBlue

Computer people...:. on 09:23 - Feb 16 by itfcjoe

Have you got a link for the crucial one as I can't get Samsung one delivered anytime soon so may as well go to Amazon (plus any required cables)
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B077SF8KMG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title

Looks like you can get it by 7pm tonight if you have Prime and order in the next 11 minutes. I am sure there are smaller ones that are cheaper as well.

Can you boot into Windows? You'll need to be able to do that to use the software. Need to check it has a USB to SATA cable with it - I think it does but haven't checked.

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Computer people...:. on 10:26 - Feb 16 with 841 viewsStirlingArcher

Computer people...:. on 09:17 - Feb 16 by StokieBlue

There are freeware alternatives for home use although they might not be as polished as Crucial or Samsung:

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
https://www.ubackup.com/
https://www.easeus.com/download/tbf-download.html

SB


I've used easeus before, took a couple of goes. I think there's a sneaky little "make bootable" checkbox in there.

depending if there's programs you want to keep, or just data...

If just data - then

usb windows 10 recovery tool
new SSD hard drive
install windows
plug in old hard drive and copy files you want to keep

If you're after keeping EVERYTHING

Then migrate to new SSD and continue


If you don't HAVE to keep all your programs as they are, a new install will be better
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