| Sunday discussion club. 14:05 - Apr 17 with 980 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/17/labour-split-by-leadership-call
“The protesters’ demand to stop new fossil fuel extraction is a basic one which should be uncontroversial to a Labour party claiming commitment to decarbonisation and a Green New Deal,” he said. “Instead of trying to outdo the government on petty authoritarianism, Starmer and his team should focus on making the case for a positive and transformative vision to tackle both the climate and cost of living crises.”
Senior figures in the party are relishing any battle, however. A Labour source said the party was taking the stance for the simple reason that it was “where the voters are”. They added: “It’s a commonsense position. Our position on climate change is strong and this doesn’t change the fact we think it’s the most pressing issue facing the planet, but we’re recognising you don’t solve it by annoying workers.”
Discuss!
I wonder where else "the voters are?"
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| Sunday discussion club. on 08:22 - Apr 18 with 835 views | WeWereZombies |
It's interesting that in this year's batch of candidate leaflets for the local elections I am seeing some mainstream parties tub thumping about the need to upgrade the nations housing stock with better insulation whilst just last year the tabloids were spitting feathers about Insulate Britain protests.
Listening to 'The Reunion' on Radio Four last week (the McLibel one) I was impressed with the pro bono legal advice Starmer gave to London Greenpeace, pushing McDonalds all the way to defeat in the European Court of Human Rights. It would be better to now reach inside himself for the good man that is clearly in there and then reach out to the good people that are within most of the electorate so that a good years progress be made on the elimination of fossil fuel extraction rather than get to the obvious conclusion a year too late and end up spending decades playing catch up. |  |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 08:28 - Apr 18 with 821 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Sunday discussion club. on 08:22 - Apr 18 by WeWereZombies |
It's interesting that in this year's batch of candidate leaflets for the local elections I am seeing some mainstream parties tub thumping about the need to upgrade the nations housing stock with better insulation whilst just last year the tabloids were spitting feathers about Insulate Britain protests.
Listening to 'The Reunion' on Radio Four last week (the McLibel one) I was impressed with the pro bono legal advice Starmer gave to London Greenpeace, pushing McDonalds all the way to defeat in the European Court of Human Rights. It would be better to now reach inside himself for the good man that is clearly in there and then reach out to the good people that are within most of the electorate so that a good years progress be made on the elimination of fossil fuel extraction rather than get to the obvious conclusion a year too late and end up spending decades playing catch up. |
Sunday discussion club was yesterday. Today is moaning Monday. |  |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 09:07 - Apr 18 with 791 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunday discussion club. on 08:28 - Apr 18 by Pinewoodblue |
Sunday discussion club was yesterday. Today is moaning Monday. |
That went well didn't it!! Perhaps I should edit the title. Maybe a new debate for Monday instead...
'Skateboarding. Anti social behaviour, yes or no?' | |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 09:08 - Apr 18 with 789 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunday discussion club. on 08:22 - Apr 18 by WeWereZombies |
It's interesting that in this year's batch of candidate leaflets for the local elections I am seeing some mainstream parties tub thumping about the need to upgrade the nations housing stock with better insulation whilst just last year the tabloids were spitting feathers about Insulate Britain protests.
Listening to 'The Reunion' on Radio Four last week (the McLibel one) I was impressed with the pro bono legal advice Starmer gave to London Greenpeace, pushing McDonalds all the way to defeat in the European Court of Human Rights. It would be better to now reach inside himself for the good man that is clearly in there and then reach out to the good people that are within most of the electorate so that a good years progress be made on the elimination of fossil fuel extraction rather than get to the obvious conclusion a year too late and end up spending decades playing catch up. |
Was the radio 4 thing worth a listen? | |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 09:20 - Apr 18 with 777 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Sunday discussion club. on 09:07 - Apr 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
That went well didn't it!! Perhaps I should edit the title. Maybe a new debate for Monday instead...
'Skateboarding. Anti social behaviour, yes or no?' |
Cook would be much more anti social than McKenna on a skateboard.
Discuss.
Frimley will be along in a minute with detailed and much edited posts.
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| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 09:28 - Apr 18 with 768 views | Durovigutum |
We aren't ready to transition from fossil fuels yet. There is still oil and gas under our shores. We should extract this rather than paying Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran or other nice nation states for their oil (and therefore prop up the pound a bit). We should reform VAT completely (which we can do post brexit, yet this tiny and rare benefit is ignored) such that reuse is cheapest, and single use items brutally punished. We should reset and publish the tax system on fuel and energy so that people know in 13 years time gas, oil and petrol will be taxed at 350% and green electricity at 0%. Landlords failing to green rentals will be taxed at a higher rate (in fact, completely reforming the tax arrangements for rental and holiday lets is sensible).
The problem with all of this is the Brexit delusion. And that there isn't the competence on the government front bench. And that around 17 of that front bench are assumed to have use tax avoidance schemes (and maybe even evasion), and that the entire UK government system need reform. So, probably not in my lifetime (even though that probably another 40 years). Sigh. |  | | |
| Sunday discussion club. on 09:37 - Apr 18 with 764 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Sunday discussion club. on 09:20 - Apr 18 by StochesStotasBlewe |
Cook would be much more anti social than McKenna on a skateboard.
Discuss.
Frimley will be along in a minute with detailed and much edited posts.
You can thank me later |
I imagine Cook would bust some amazing moves on the plinth of Ashton's soon to be announced statue. | |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 10:47 - Apr 18 with 723 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Sunday discussion club. on 09:37 - Apr 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I imagine Cook would bust some amazing moves on the plinth of Ashton's soon to be announced statue. |
Cook would definitely be more energetic with a variety of back flips and assorted little tricks although McKenna, with his laid back demeanour would, in time with his superior tactical nous and more experienced back room coaches eventually take the the league 1 skateboarding title relegating Cook to the Conference division. | |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 10:49 - Apr 18 with 712 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Sunday discussion club. on 09:07 - Apr 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
That went well didn't it!! Perhaps I should edit the title. Maybe a new debate for Monday instead...
'Skateboarding. Anti social behaviour, yes or no?' |
Good idea, both sides can have a good moan. | |
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| Sunday discussion club. on 13:53 - Apr 18 with 670 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sunday discussion club. on 08:22 - Apr 18 by WeWereZombies |
It's interesting that in this year's batch of candidate leaflets for the local elections I am seeing some mainstream parties tub thumping about the need to upgrade the nations housing stock with better insulation whilst just last year the tabloids were spitting feathers about Insulate Britain protests.
Listening to 'The Reunion' on Radio Four last week (the McLibel one) I was impressed with the pro bono legal advice Starmer gave to London Greenpeace, pushing McDonalds all the way to defeat in the European Court of Human Rights. It would be better to now reach inside himself for the good man that is clearly in there and then reach out to the good people that are within most of the electorate so that a good years progress be made on the elimination of fossil fuel extraction rather than get to the obvious conclusion a year too late and end up spending decades playing catch up. |
That’s the trouble with this attack on ‘woke’ taken out by the right wing rags, commentators and social media gobsh*tes. In the name of tribalism, just to ‘annoy the libs’ they’re trashing ideas that would be good things. Insulating homes to reduce energy usage, lower bills and keep people warmer is obviously a good thing.
Our local flyers for the council elections are depressingly bland. It’s just the usual stuff about tidying up kids play areas and planting more daffodils! Nobody has brought up Tory law breaking, dishonesty, corruption, austerity, racism and general incompetence. Even though it’s for council elections, you’d think opposition parties would make more of it. |  |
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