| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home 04:58 - Dec 30 with 1892 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Highest scorers in the division. Why is it so quiet? Leicester was pretty rubbish as well. Players are noticing, Chaplin multiple times has asked the North lower to raise the volume last two games.
It should be rocking in there. So weird considering we have 30k and been bad for best part of two decades preceding this run. [Post edited 30 Dec 2023 6:56]
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| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:27 - Dec 30 with 1742 views | Powrigan |
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| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:42 - Dec 30 with 1710 views | blueprint |
I think Blue Action moving to Block A is now looking like a bad decision. They’re wasted up there. The North Stand still try but it’s certainly quieter than it was.
As for the other stands, there are definitely fans that want to make a noise but too many are just happy to let others make the noise.
Due to have 3 young kids I sit in the SAR lower. Every corner we get I try to start a “Come on you Blues!” But no more than 2 people at best join in. I actually get frustrated and have actually joined in with the Football in a Library song when the away fans sing it.
I honestly think the lack of encouragement from the home fans is beginning to affect the players.
Perhaps our incredible year of football has made many fans come to expect the results and performances to happen no matter what. |  | | |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 08:00 - Dec 30 with 1660 views | Jon_456 |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:42 - Dec 30 by blueprint |
I think Blue Action moving to Block A is now looking like a bad decision. They’re wasted up there. The North Stand still try but it’s certainly quieter than it was.
As for the other stands, there are definitely fans that want to make a noise but too many are just happy to let others make the noise.
Due to have 3 young kids I sit in the SAR lower. Every corner we get I try to start a “Come on you Blues!” But no more than 2 people at best join in. I actually get frustrated and have actually joined in with the Football in a Library song when the away fans sing it.
I honestly think the lack of encouragement from the home fans is beginning to affect the players.
Perhaps our incredible year of football has made many fans come to expect the results and performances to happen no matter what. |
It’s definitely been a bad move in terms of impact on the rest of the stadium. That’s not to criticise the BA guys but the atmosphere around the rest of the ground has clearly become a lot worse since they moved to block A.
SBRL especially is so quiet these days. They occasionally come out with an odd Hark Now Hear which is always received with a large cheer from the away end. It’s embarrassing. What I don’t understand is why anyone sits in SBRL if they’re not going to join in as the view is pretty terrible. [Post edited 30 Dec 2023 8:07]
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| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 14:14 - Dec 30 with 1473 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:42 - Dec 30 by blueprint |
I think Blue Action moving to Block A is now looking like a bad decision. They’re wasted up there. The North Stand still try but it’s certainly quieter than it was.
As for the other stands, there are definitely fans that want to make a noise but too many are just happy to let others make the noise.
Due to have 3 young kids I sit in the SAR lower. Every corner we get I try to start a “Come on you Blues!” But no more than 2 people at best join in. I actually get frustrated and have actually joined in with the Football in a Library song when the away fans sing it.
I honestly think the lack of encouragement from the home fans is beginning to affect the players.
Perhaps our incredible year of football has made many fans come to expect the results and performances to happen no matter what. |
Last night is a game where the crowd could have made a difference, when teams get deeper and the intensity level increases it just adds to the pressure for the away side. Instead just seems to be waiting for something to happen. Sounded so flat last night.The team deserves more IMO. PR in 2023 has arguably been the best home ticket in English football. | | | |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 14:18 - Dec 30 with 1444 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:42 - Dec 30 by blueprint |
I think Blue Action moving to Block A is now looking like a bad decision. They’re wasted up there. The North Stand still try but it’s certainly quieter than it was.
As for the other stands, there are definitely fans that want to make a noise but too many are just happy to let others make the noise.
Due to have 3 young kids I sit in the SAR lower. Every corner we get I try to start a “Come on you Blues!” But no more than 2 people at best join in. I actually get frustrated and have actually joined in with the Football in a Library song when the away fans sing it.
I honestly think the lack of encouragement from the home fans is beginning to affect the players.
Perhaps our incredible year of football has made many fans come to expect the results and performances to happen no matter what. |
SBRL should still be making a racket with BA now in A Block. |  |
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| (No subject) on 21:43 - Dec 30 with 1274 views | Slambo |
| Won 17 out of 20 (now 21) at home on 07:42 - Dec 30 by blueprint |
I think Blue Action moving to Block A is now looking like a bad decision. They’re wasted up there. The North Stand still try but it’s certainly quieter than it was.
As for the other stands, there are definitely fans that want to make a noise but too many are just happy to let others make the noise.
Due to have 3 young kids I sit in the SAR lower. Every corner we get I try to start a “Come on you Blues!” But no more than 2 people at best join in. I actually get frustrated and have actually joined in with the Football in a Library song when the away fans sing it.
I honestly think the lack of encouragement from the home fans is beginning to affect the players.
Perhaps our incredible year of football has made many fans come to expect the results and performances to happen no matter what. |
I've always been reluctant to actually write these words as I feel like it'll spark some kind of existential crisis within the Ipswich fanbase, but: the North Stand is dead. And it was dead way before 25 Blue Action lads relocated to Block A...
First, the away fans were moved to the other side of the ground. This is isn't necessary for a good atmosphere, but having two banks of partisan supporters next to each other certainly helps. Then came the biggest calamity - turning the North Stand all-seater. Fans of different bents could now no longer congregate. So you had a stand that had lost purpose, so to speak, and no means to rectify it as people couldn't move about. It's not as simple as 'the fans in there just got old'; plenty of younger fans came in, but were not able to unite with others who may have still had that North Stand mindset, so their songs just died on the wind. The final nail in the coffin was a sustained period of awful football and mediocrity...
Now the North Stand had a chance of rejuvenation. The responses from the survey we sent out last year about establishing a singing section were pretty unanimous that it should be established in the North Stand, specifically section 5. And it should've been, but the fans who lingered on there made it clear they'd never make way for such a thing - age and length of service were clearly more important than activism and dynamism. The club preferred section 5 as well, but it just wasn't a hill they were willing to die on. So we had no choice but to look elsewhere and Upper Cobbold Block A was the next best option...
As for stating that the move was a bad decision, I guess it depends on what the goal was. For us it was to establish an area where it was explicit that the expectation was to generate atmosphere, oral and visual. In that regard it's been an overwhelming success. As a focal point for the rest of the ground? Not so much. But was that ever likely? We can sing and jump about all we want but if those around us don't join in, not much we can do. You can take a horse to water, as the saying goes. They didn't join in when we were in section 6, they don't join in when we're in Block A - the ground is mostly full of fans who, for whatever reason, don't want to join in! And that's the same in most places. We laud Germany, Poland, Italy etc, but even they'll just have a bank of ultras at one end of the ground making all the noise...
So my advice is to just accept that the North Stand is no longer the home of Ipswich Town's vociferous, partisan support. Block A is. Anyone who's in there knows, anyone in the adjoining block B knows and anyone right up to section 5 in the North knows, even though they're in denial about it. If you want to sing yourself hoarse at the football, then don't wait for it to come to you. There're 100 or so seats still available up there. Come and join the revolution... |  |
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| (No subject) on 22:13 - Dec 30 with 1216 views | Jon_456 |
| (No subject) on 21:43 - Dec 30 by Slambo |
I've always been reluctant to actually write these words as I feel like it'll spark some kind of existential crisis within the Ipswich fanbase, but: the North Stand is dead. And it was dead way before 25 Blue Action lads relocated to Block A...
First, the away fans were moved to the other side of the ground. This is isn't necessary for a good atmosphere, but having two banks of partisan supporters next to each other certainly helps. Then came the biggest calamity - turning the North Stand all-seater. Fans of different bents could now no longer congregate. So you had a stand that had lost purpose, so to speak, and no means to rectify it as people couldn't move about. It's not as simple as 'the fans in there just got old'; plenty of younger fans came in, but were not able to unite with others who may have still had that North Stand mindset, so their songs just died on the wind. The final nail in the coffin was a sustained period of awful football and mediocrity...
Now the North Stand had a chance of rejuvenation. The responses from the survey we sent out last year about establishing a singing section were pretty unanimous that it should be established in the North Stand, specifically section 5. And it should've been, but the fans who lingered on there made it clear they'd never make way for such a thing - age and length of service were clearly more important than activism and dynamism. The club preferred section 5 as well, but it just wasn't a hill they were willing to die on. So we had no choice but to look elsewhere and Upper Cobbold Block A was the next best option...
As for stating that the move was a bad decision, I guess it depends on what the goal was. For us it was to establish an area where it was explicit that the expectation was to generate atmosphere, oral and visual. In that regard it's been an overwhelming success. As a focal point for the rest of the ground? Not so much. But was that ever likely? We can sing and jump about all we want but if those around us don't join in, not much we can do. You can take a horse to water, as the saying goes. They didn't join in when we were in section 6, they don't join in when we're in Block A - the ground is mostly full of fans who, for whatever reason, don't want to join in! And that's the same in most places. We laud Germany, Poland, Italy etc, but even they'll just have a bank of ultras at one end of the ground making all the noise...
So my advice is to just accept that the North Stand is no longer the home of Ipswich Town's vociferous, partisan support. Block A is. Anyone who's in there knows, anyone in the adjoining block B knows and anyone right up to section 5 in the North knows, even though they're in denial about it. If you want to sing yourself hoarse at the football, then don't wait for it to come to you. There're 100 or so seats still available up there. Come and join the revolution... |
All of that is fair.
I assume there’s no option or discussions taking place to relocate either back to section 6 or another area of the ground for next year?
I agree it was always unlikely to be a focal point for the rest of the stadium like you say but it has very clearly had a negative impact on overall atmosphere, to the extent that players are noticing now. Block A is probably the worst area in the ground to try and generate any sort of atmosphere around the ground.
Again, that’s not a criticism of you guys as it looks like a right party over there but I wouldn’t underestimate the impact you could have if situated in a more central area (or any other area for that matter). | | | |
| (No subject) on 22:19 - Dec 30 with 1206 views | Medblue |
| (No subject) on 21:43 - Dec 30 by Slambo |
I've always been reluctant to actually write these words as I feel like it'll spark some kind of existential crisis within the Ipswich fanbase, but: the North Stand is dead. And it was dead way before 25 Blue Action lads relocated to Block A...
First, the away fans were moved to the other side of the ground. This is isn't necessary for a good atmosphere, but having two banks of partisan supporters next to each other certainly helps. Then came the biggest calamity - turning the North Stand all-seater. Fans of different bents could now no longer congregate. So you had a stand that had lost purpose, so to speak, and no means to rectify it as people couldn't move about. It's not as simple as 'the fans in there just got old'; plenty of younger fans came in, but were not able to unite with others who may have still had that North Stand mindset, so their songs just died on the wind. The final nail in the coffin was a sustained period of awful football and mediocrity...
Now the North Stand had a chance of rejuvenation. The responses from the survey we sent out last year about establishing a singing section were pretty unanimous that it should be established in the North Stand, specifically section 5. And it should've been, but the fans who lingered on there made it clear they'd never make way for such a thing - age and length of service were clearly more important than activism and dynamism. The club preferred section 5 as well, but it just wasn't a hill they were willing to die on. So we had no choice but to look elsewhere and Upper Cobbold Block A was the next best option...
As for stating that the move was a bad decision, I guess it depends on what the goal was. For us it was to establish an area where it was explicit that the expectation was to generate atmosphere, oral and visual. In that regard it's been an overwhelming success. As a focal point for the rest of the ground? Not so much. But was that ever likely? We can sing and jump about all we want but if those around us don't join in, not much we can do. You can take a horse to water, as the saying goes. They didn't join in when we were in section 6, they don't join in when we're in Block A - the ground is mostly full of fans who, for whatever reason, don't want to join in! And that's the same in most places. We laud Germany, Poland, Italy etc, but even they'll just have a bank of ultras at one end of the ground making all the noise...
So my advice is to just accept that the North Stand is no longer the home of Ipswich Town's vociferous, partisan support. Block A is. Anyone who's in there knows, anyone in the adjoining block B knows and anyone right up to section 5 in the North knows, even though they're in denial about it. If you want to sing yourself hoarse at the football, then don't wait for it to come to you. There're 100 or so seats still available up there. Come and join the revolution... |
The North Stand noise levels were perfectly fine in the old north stand before the 2nd tier was built. Continuous and loud proper chanting was heard during most games in the promotion year and before. A lot of the guys that used to sit North Lower grew up and moved on or moved upstairs. Block A these days is filled with about 30-40 19 year olds and a drummer with songs mostly copied from other teams that go on way too long and add nothing to the atmosphere. | | | |
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| (No subject) on 22:30 - Dec 30 with 1165 views | Reuser_is_God |
| (No subject) on 22:13 - Dec 30 by Jon_456 |
All of that is fair.
I assume there’s no option or discussions taking place to relocate either back to section 6 or another area of the ground for next year?
I agree it was always unlikely to be a focal point for the rest of the stadium like you say but it has very clearly had a negative impact on overall atmosphere, to the extent that players are noticing now. Block A is probably the worst area in the ground to try and generate any sort of atmosphere around the ground.
Again, that’s not a criticism of you guys as it looks like a right party over there but I wouldn’t underestimate the impact you could have if situated in a more central area (or any other area for that matter). |
We want to be central behind the goal, but as per the post above, it won’t happen as those already there won’t vacate that area. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:31 - Dec 30 with 1164 views | Reuser_is_God |
| (No subject) on 22:19 - Dec 30 by Medblue |
The North Stand noise levels were perfectly fine in the old north stand before the 2nd tier was built. Continuous and loud proper chanting was heard during most games in the promotion year and before. A lot of the guys that used to sit North Lower grew up and moved on or moved upstairs. Block A these days is filled with about 30-40 19 year olds and a drummer with songs mostly copied from other teams that go on way too long and add nothing to the atmosphere. |
Last sentence is complete nonsense. | |
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| (No subject) on 22:57 - Dec 30 with 1120 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| (No subject) on 21:43 - Dec 30 by Slambo |
I've always been reluctant to actually write these words as I feel like it'll spark some kind of existential crisis within the Ipswich fanbase, but: the North Stand is dead. And it was dead way before 25 Blue Action lads relocated to Block A...
First, the away fans were moved to the other side of the ground. This is isn't necessary for a good atmosphere, but having two banks of partisan supporters next to each other certainly helps. Then came the biggest calamity - turning the North Stand all-seater. Fans of different bents could now no longer congregate. So you had a stand that had lost purpose, so to speak, and no means to rectify it as people couldn't move about. It's not as simple as 'the fans in there just got old'; plenty of younger fans came in, but were not able to unite with others who may have still had that North Stand mindset, so their songs just died on the wind. The final nail in the coffin was a sustained period of awful football and mediocrity...
Now the North Stand had a chance of rejuvenation. The responses from the survey we sent out last year about establishing a singing section were pretty unanimous that it should be established in the North Stand, specifically section 5. And it should've been, but the fans who lingered on there made it clear they'd never make way for such a thing - age and length of service were clearly more important than activism and dynamism. The club preferred section 5 as well, but it just wasn't a hill they were willing to die on. So we had no choice but to look elsewhere and Upper Cobbold Block A was the next best option...
As for stating that the move was a bad decision, I guess it depends on what the goal was. For us it was to establish an area where it was explicit that the expectation was to generate atmosphere, oral and visual. In that regard it's been an overwhelming success. As a focal point for the rest of the ground? Not so much. But was that ever likely? We can sing and jump about all we want but if those around us don't join in, not much we can do. You can take a horse to water, as the saying goes. They didn't join in when we were in section 6, they don't join in when we're in Block A - the ground is mostly full of fans who, for whatever reason, don't want to join in! And that's the same in most places. We laud Germany, Poland, Italy etc, but even they'll just have a bank of ultras at one end of the ground making all the noise...
So my advice is to just accept that the North Stand is no longer the home of Ipswich Town's vociferous, partisan support. Block A is. Anyone who's in there knows, anyone in the adjoining block B knows and anyone right up to section 5 in the North knows, even though they're in denial about it. If you want to sing yourself hoarse at the football, then don't wait for it to come to you. There're 100 or so seats still available up there. Come and join the revolution... |
Good for you Slambo...tell it how it is. I would happily stand and sing in Cobbold block C but I might be grumbled at. |  |
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| (No subject) on 00:50 - Dec 31 with 1031 views | Slambo |
| (No subject) on 22:13 - Dec 30 by Jon_456 |
All of that is fair.
I assume there’s no option or discussions taking place to relocate either back to section 6 or another area of the ground for next year?
I agree it was always unlikely to be a focal point for the rest of the stadium like you say but it has very clearly had a negative impact on overall atmosphere, to the extent that players are noticing now. Block A is probably the worst area in the ground to try and generate any sort of atmosphere around the ground.
Again, that’s not a criticism of you guys as it looks like a right party over there but I wouldn’t underestimate the impact you could have if situated in a more central area (or any other area for that matter). |
We'd happily base ourselves in the middle of section 5, but are Reg, Ken and Graham, who've been there since the 70s, going to make way? Will it solve the problem? We can create a 200 seat singing section and go banzai every week, but what makes you think that, say, sections 4 & 6 on either side would join in? We can come up with all the excuses we want: the acoustics aren't right, no-one knows the new songs, everyone's bored of the old songs, it's too hot, it's too cold, the game's on Sky, blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, if that individual fan wants to sing badly enough, they will. But the truth is, they're too inhibited or can't be bothered...
So just create a block where it's stated, unambiguously, that fans therein are expected to contribute to the atmosphere. At least that way supporters who are that way inclined can generate an atmosphere uninhibited. If it bleeds into other parts of the ground, it's a bonus, but it doesn't really happen like that anywhere, with the exception maybe of South America where it seems every man, woman and child is off their seat going nuts. Hey, i'd love to turn Portman Road into La Bombanera, but baby steps and all that. But I think you're going to have to abandon the idea that there is a sweet spot somewhere in the ground that if we were to occupy it would spark every corner of the ground into life...
Now A Block isn't perfect. There are a lot of fans who hung around from last season who didn't get the memo about how you're now supposed to conduct yourself; others are getting complacent. But the simple fact that, when you buy an A Block ticket, it says 'singing section' and all that that entails, means we can engineer the section like we couldn't in the North Stand. Give it 2-3 years and it'll be an absolute bear pit...
The great unknown is how this Cobbold rebuild is going to look. The club absolutely HAVE to create a proper standing area so the singers can congregate. Hopefully it'll be in the North Lower like the good old days... | |
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| (No subject) on 13:02 - Dec 31 with 782 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| (No subject) on 22:19 - Dec 30 by Medblue |
The North Stand noise levels were perfectly fine in the old north stand before the 2nd tier was built. Continuous and loud proper chanting was heard during most games in the promotion year and before. A lot of the guys that used to sit North Lower grew up and moved on or moved upstairs. Block A these days is filled with about 30-40 19 year olds and a drummer with songs mostly copied from other teams that go on way too long and add nothing to the atmosphere. |
I don’t buy this being the main or only reason. I’ve heard incredible noise out of there since the second tier was built. West Ham at home in the playoffs springs to mind. This might sound controversial and I don’t mean to be because Ipswich is a proud family club and that’s a good thing. Sitting in the West Stand the other night seeing all kids in their Town gear was great to see the youngsters in Suffolk loving their hometown team again.
However, when it comes to the NS could it just be a shift in terms of the fans in there? From when I started going in the mid nineties until at least the Royle era it was primarily guys 20-45 that used to go to football together on the beers and for better or for worse it was pretty laddish and more hostile in there. You can see from the odd Vlog that it’s a real mix of folk in there now. Maybe some are still there but just a bit more mellow, others have probably gone with mates in other parts of the ground etc. Of course this isn’t to say that different groups of fans don’t vocally back the team or generate good noise, just when it was these groups together it created more energy in there. Regardless it used to be our lively area but just seems a bit dead now.
It’s amazing to see the ground full but the players could really do with a better 12th man at times. I really don’t think it’s impossible either, that roar that went up when Morsy’s went in against Leicester was really loud. They just need the vocal backing in tight home games not collective groans. [Post edited 31 Dec 2023 13:10]
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