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Cricket 10:27 - Dec 17 with 627 viewsgainsboroughblue

I think England wanted to come home judging by that.

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Cricket on 10:46 - Dec 17 with 601 viewsSteve_M

Probably, job done with the series win though.

A couple of more interesting Tests in Brisbane and Blomfontein at the moment though.

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Cricket on 10:49 - Dec 17 with 587 viewsRadlett_blue

Well, they'd won the 3 match series so I don't think they were 100% focused & yes, probably thinking about going home. The issues from this tour are (10 how can we persist with Crawley after 54 runs from 6 innings & (2) how does Stokes keep his place in the side when he is rarely able to bowl?

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Cricket on 11:33 - Dec 17 with 522 viewsChurchman

Cricket on 10:49 - Dec 17 by Radlett_blue

Well, they'd won the 3 match series so I don't think they were 100% focused & yes, probably thinking about going home. The issues from this tour are (10 how can we persist with Crawley after 54 runs from 6 innings & (2) how does Stokes keep his place in the side when he is rarely able to bowl?


It’s often the way with test series. How many times in the 90s and early 2000s did Australia wipe the floor with England then put their feet up and lose the rubber bone last test? Bit like hammering the opposition at football and letting in a ‘consolation goal’. You don’t want to but somehow you ease off, just as spurs did the other night against Southampton - without the latter scoring.

Btw, where on earth is the consolation in scoring a goal when you’ve been taken to the cleaners? Never understood the term, personally.
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Cricket on 17:18 - Dec 17 with 435 viewsstonojnr

Cricket on 10:49 - Dec 17 by Radlett_blue

Well, they'd won the 3 match series so I don't think they were 100% focused & yes, probably thinking about going home. The issues from this tour are (10 how can we persist with Crawley after 54 runs from 6 innings & (2) how does Stokes keep his place in the side when he is rarely able to bowl?


Yeah but if that NZ team had turned up day 1 of the 1st test, result might have different

As for Stokes he is reaching the point I said he would day 1 they made him captain. He doesn't or can't not pick himself to bowl, especially when he ends up being the senior bowler in the team, which inevitably means he bowls when not fully fit and he's always going to be injured if he carries on his " I ain't dropping my workload "attitude, you can't be the super batsman, super bowler and super captain all at the same time.
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Cricket on 17:38 - Dec 17 with 426 viewsRadlett_blue

Cricket on 17:18 - Dec 17 by stonojnr

Yeah but if that NZ team had turned up day 1 of the 1st test, result might have different

As for Stokes he is reaching the point I said he would day 1 they made him captain. He doesn't or can't not pick himself to bowl, especially when he ends up being the senior bowler in the team, which inevitably means he bowls when not fully fit and he's always going to be injured if he carries on his " I ain't dropping my workload "attitude, you can't be the super batsman, super bowler and super captain all at the same time.


When Stokes was made Captain, I was highly sceptical about his ability to play all 3 International formats, given the physical demands on a medium-fast bowling all rounder, his age and his injury history. Stokes must have realised that himself, as later that summer, he announced his retirement from ODI's. Then, that was reversed in order to allow him to play in the 2023 World Cup (a poor decision IMO). Given his injury problems & England's ridiculously punishing schedule, no way can he continue to play all 3 formats (especially as an all rounder) so the sensible decision would be if he retired from Test cricket. However, I think he likes Test cricket & likes being England Test Captain (& by all accounts he is a decent Captain) so interesting to see how this one goes.

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