| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland 01:16 - Apr 11 with 499 views | Ryorry | From the sublime to the ridiculous. Well done all the scientists and crew. Bet part of all the astronauts wanted to stay up there. |  |
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| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 08:01 - Apr 11 with 336 views | bsw72 | Four billion dollars to send four astronauts on a ten-day loop around the Moon. It is a genuinely extraordinary feat of human endeavour but the numbers raise a question in my mind. That same sum could provide health insurance coverage for roughly two million uninsured Americans for a full year, fund around 800,000 hip replacements, or cover insulin costs for several million diabetics. McMerica remains the only wealthy nation where people actually ration medication because they cannot afford it, that’s just mental. Artemis II is historic and people are not wrong about scientific value, but it raises so many moral questions for me about glory vs necessity. |  | |  |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 09:16 - Apr 11 with 261 views | ITFCson |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 08:01 - Apr 11 by bsw72 | Four billion dollars to send four astronauts on a ten-day loop around the Moon. It is a genuinely extraordinary feat of human endeavour but the numbers raise a question in my mind. That same sum could provide health insurance coverage for roughly two million uninsured Americans for a full year, fund around 800,000 hip replacements, or cover insulin costs for several million diabetics. McMerica remains the only wealthy nation where people actually ration medication because they cannot afford it, that’s just mental. Artemis II is historic and people are not wrong about scientific value, but it raises so many moral questions for me about glory vs necessity. |
Surely by that metric though all the wealthy should give to all the poor. Sportsman should not be funded to go to the olympics. Where do you draw the line on glory and necessity. |  | |  |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 10:10 - Apr 11 with 224 views | Bugs |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 08:01 - Apr 11 by bsw72 | Four billion dollars to send four astronauts on a ten-day loop around the Moon. It is a genuinely extraordinary feat of human endeavour but the numbers raise a question in my mind. That same sum could provide health insurance coverage for roughly two million uninsured Americans for a full year, fund around 800,000 hip replacements, or cover insulin costs for several million diabetics. McMerica remains the only wealthy nation where people actually ration medication because they cannot afford it, that’s just mental. Artemis II is historic and people are not wrong about scientific value, but it raises so many moral questions for me about glory vs necessity. |
A similar argument was talked about regarding Apollo. The money spent doesn't disappear into nothing. Prof Brian Cox often says the knock-on effects of the R&D actually brought in 7 times as much money back into the US economy by 1987 (some say it's much more than that). But the USA isn't doing this on a whim; there is a possibility of huge amounts of money to be made long-term. |  | |  |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 10:43 - Apr 11 with 190 views | MattinLondon |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 08:01 - Apr 11 by bsw72 | Four billion dollars to send four astronauts on a ten-day loop around the Moon. It is a genuinely extraordinary feat of human endeavour but the numbers raise a question in my mind. That same sum could provide health insurance coverage for roughly two million uninsured Americans for a full year, fund around 800,000 hip replacements, or cover insulin costs for several million diabetics. McMerica remains the only wealthy nation where people actually ration medication because they cannot afford it, that’s just mental. Artemis II is historic and people are not wrong about scientific value, but it raises so many moral questions for me about glory vs necessity. |
I think I’m right in stating that as a result of space exploration there has been a lot of technological improvements. And gradually such technology gets an everyday commercial purpose to improve people’s lives. |  | |  |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 11:02 - Apr 11 with 167 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 08:01 - Apr 11 by bsw72 | Four billion dollars to send four astronauts on a ten-day loop around the Moon. It is a genuinely extraordinary feat of human endeavour but the numbers raise a question in my mind. That same sum could provide health insurance coverage for roughly two million uninsured Americans for a full year, fund around 800,000 hip replacements, or cover insulin costs for several million diabetics. McMerica remains the only wealthy nation where people actually ration medication because they cannot afford it, that’s just mental. Artemis II is historic and people are not wrong about scientific value, but it raises so many moral questions for me about glory vs necessity. |
Better than the billions per day currently being spent in the Gulf. At least there is human endeavour, and the technological improvements which tend to filter down to civilian life. The American health system is a different topic entirely. It’s actually incredibly inefficient and they spend more per head on health than most European nations. |  | |  |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 11:05 - Apr 11 with 161 views | Ryorry |
| Splashdown, successfully back to t.rumpland on 10:43 - Apr 11 by MattinLondon | I think I’m right in stating that as a result of space exploration there has been a lot of technological improvements. And gradually such technology gets an everyday commercial purpose to improve people’s lives. |
And not just that. I’d had similar thoughts to BSW, albeit was quite split re the pros and cons, but then saw a few TV news clips of young kids in various classrooms massively excited and enthused by the launch & the whole expedition. If you replicate that level of engagement in youngsters around the world, who knows the potential positives it’ll have through raising awareness of the desperate need to preserve our environment, conserve the planet generally, and co-operate internationally, as we are now raising the generation of politicians, scientists, inventors, engineers, designers, entrepreneurs etc. who will be having to manage, come up with ideas, and deal with it all. |  |
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